Quote: That falls a lot short when the same motor in the Vision is the same motor in the Judge.
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Lloyds makes the victory motors put out 125HP without a ton of money. Victory needs to make a high output (Judge) motor.
Kinda like the folks buying that Screamin Chicken motor from HD.
Technically Ron, the motor is slightly different between the Judge and the Vision.
The Judge (and most other Victory cruisers) get the 113 ft lb cams, the Vision and Cross bikes get the 109 ft lb cams. You don't miss 4 ft lbs of torque because the torque curve on the touring bikes is longer and flatter, meaning more torque through the useable range.
You are 100% correct on Lloyd.
I know a bunch of guys that have had Lloydz cams dropped into Victory motors and have experienced a marked improvement in performance for a small investment. I think part of the reason Victory doesn't offer it from the factory is that Lloyd is SO good at what he does they realize anyone that wants it done will get the cams from him and have the bike custom-tuned. Hence the photo of Loyd posing with Zack Ness and the Judge!
Lloyd Greer is a motorhead of the highest order and I'm lucky to have him a short ride away if I ever want work done.
I considered getting the Lloydz cams for my Vision but honestly, it's already plenty torquey and fast for me.
