point is Larry, the oil industry has shown that it is quite able to turn a decent profit and could do so even without the subsidies. YOUR argument was that if they were a viable industry, they should NOT NEED SUBISIDIES. Well, oil has been somewhat viable for over 100 years, so when are they going to get off of the gov't teet? My company pays taxes too, but we're not turning a PROFIT, i.e. AFTER TAXES of tens of billions of dollars. Nor are we still receiving any more grant money, ours was a one shot deal, not a year after year after year deal....