Barry - Just remember we will be rolling DEEP, big group, 20+ bikes, some 2 up. A spirited yet leisurely pace is probably best. Challenging roads at times, and the ability to relax and enjoy the scenery as well. The routes Micah and I came up with kind of had this in mind. For friday we have a ride that's a little shorter, but has plenty of twists, and saturday it's a longer ride, but more sweepers and scenic drives along the river, with the Mindoro Cut thrown in for good measure. That's not to say they can't be tweaked - of course they can. Feel free to tweak away, just keep this stuff in mind. Also, try to keep it around 200 miles, a big group is going to move slower, and stops have to be figured in too. Usually after 200 or so miles, everyone is ready to call it a day, head back and start throwing a few back. Something else that might be a good idea is what was mentioned before, maybe design a couple of really challenging routes and go with a smaller group, maybe have it so we meet up for some of the stops, that way people can choose which route they want to go. Nothing says we all have to go the same way. In fact we've done this in the past.
