well heres my 2 bobs worth. ive listened to a lot of this so called science and i also read all of the original post and in my opinion unless someone in the world is mother nature they will have no idea the only thing i think is right is that yes the earths population is over crowded and famine, disease, earth quakes, floods, fires and all other natural disasters are just the earths way of righting itself and the problem is humans are to busy trying to keep themselves alive for to long . Ive been touched by tragedy, and disease in my life and what i see is if you are meant to live you are meant to live. here in oz we have had in my life and memory years with out rain years with loads of rain, hot years cold years but in the end it basically levels out. as for climate change maybe its true but i reckon all these scientists need to sit down together and listen to each other, because all i hear is conflicting stories. any primary school student knows that evaporations creates rain but scientist that i seen on discovery say its bad ok no evaporation no rain then wee'll have even more severe droughts, what a load of dribble. a bit like my post really anyway thats it