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I never said I didn't believe in climate change, just we are not doing it. I believe it is part of a natural cycle and the minute amount of gas we contribute comparably is negligible. But some people hold onto conspiracy theories even when the perpetrators admit what they have done.



Has nothing to do with believing in conspiracy theories. It has to do with playing it safe. That light brown cloud hugging the Rockies and sitting over Denver didn't come from Mount Vesuvius. Perhaps it is natural, but I honestly believe with however many billion people, and however many billion cars, planes, powerplants, etc... in the world that you have to be kidding if you don't think we are adding to the problem. I prefer being safe, not sorry. The climate is changing, that is indisputable, the question is, what are we going to do about that? How are we going to prepare ourselves if sea levels do rise (something that is easily verifiable), or if we do see an increase in bizzare and violent weather, like we've seen over the last couple years. Further, every major player in the world is taking it seriously and is investing in technology and manufacturing focused on it, and will make money doing so, will the US just sit this wave out too, not like we're short on manufacturing jobs in the US....

By the way, yes, there was some crap going on in the UK with scientists, but NUMEROUS independent research groups and investigators have since shown that even though they were doctoring their reports, the facts that they were discussing (i.e that we're causing or worsening climate change) are completely supported by independent data. In fact, one of those studies, the Berkeley Study, was carried out by a group of climate change skeptics and ended up supporting the guys at East Anglia who were caught in ClimateGate. Their data was taken from completely different sources than the UK group, but ended up supporting the previous data.

Last edited by Bayern710; 12/15/2011 11:34 PM.