went out for a scoot last night, not to far maybe about 60 klm or so, but got off the bike and my back was not the least bit sore, the seat holds you in pretty good you feel almost buckled in, it does push you back a bit on the bike so i am glad i put the rivco risers on. The height is not to bad, its between the oem and the newspeed seat i had so not to high, i wish it were lower but there are offsets for everything and i am ok with this at the end of the day. All and all for the first little bit i really like the seat. Funny though, i don't feel it to be hard at all, i mean its not the oem granted but take a scoot on the newspeed seat or something similiar and this thing will feel like a marsh mello LOL.