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#464731 09/24/2011 8:17 PM
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Was thinking of buying one of these...
http://www.motorcycletrailer.com/mag1/caddy1.html

Question is, can i pull my bike around like this without tearing it up?

After looking through my shop manual I have decided that the oil pumps will function while towing the bike in neutral. But I just wanted to confirm this with you guys before trying it.


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Your chain will spin the whole time but I figure you really wouldn't hurt it. For a major trip I would trailer it rather than tear up the rear tire.


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Not sure if I would do that since our trans is fed by oil pressure rather than having oil in the case fed by splash. Pop the chain off and no worries but I agree, I would trailer it if I ever trailered my bike anywhere.I always ride my bike to and from anywhere it goes.


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I use something similar for short tows. No problems.

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I built one like this quite a few years ago, and another one two years ago. The first time I towed a bike clear to the east coast. The second one I've used on trips to lower Missouri. Mine is built to go into a reciever hitch. I always take the chain loose, which is kind of a hassle. My thinking was to go a long trip in more comfort, and take the bike off when I get there. The weirdest thing about this kind of a system is watching the bike lean in the curves as watched in the rear view mirrors.


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I don't get enough life out of my tires as it is.

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Dang, I need to get a receiver hitch for the Rocket now. Why should I be limited to one bike when I travel?


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if you are looking for something simple and easy to store, some yrs back uncle Phil (bonniusa) got something called Trailer in a bag, it will fold down small enough to carry in your car trunk and comes in a carrying bag (hence trailer in a bag hahaha) might be something to look into?? i have known others that have used it and everyone seems to agree, it works fine and has new tech bearings that hold up well on longer trips. i was worried that those small wheels would cause bearing damage but i am told no, so that was my only concern. i understand they are not expensive?? i am sure if you google trailer in a bag you will find it.


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FriarJohn #464740 09/25/2011 6:32 PM
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The intended use would be for short trips and I would prefer not having the hassle of taking the chain loose. If I did use it for longer hauls, I would probably take the chain loose.

As for oil pressure, at first it APPEARS (in the shop manual) that both oil pumps are driven by the output shaft. I think this is the shaft that would turn while towing... But on second thought, that couldn't be right because that would mean this shaft would need to turn all the time while the bike's running, which it doesn't.

I like the "trailer in a bag" idea but wouldn't want the hassle of assembling it every time I need to tow my bike. I'd rather take the chain loose.

Thanks guys!


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"Trailer in a bag"? Eff that.

The primary issue with a receiver mounted wheel chock towing device is you can't back up without jacknifing the bike. If you know that up front then you can plan accordingly.

I also suggest double-strapping the bike (two each side), with at least one set on a bar harness. It works well enough.

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here's a receiver-mounted bike carrier that will hold 600lbs (enough for my TBA....) - I've been considering it for those rare occasions when I just need to drag the bike somewhere (I usually ride it). And it's under 300 bucks.

http://www.amazon.com/Hitch-Mounted-Sport-Motorcycle-Carrier/dp/B002M3ODTC


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Quote:

here's a receiver-mounted bike carrier that will hold 600lbs (enough for my TBA....) - I've been considering it for those rare occasions when I just need to drag the bike somewhere (I usually ride it). And it's under 300 bucks.

http://www.amazon.com/Hitch-Mounted-Sport-Motorcycle-Carrier/dp/B002M3ODTC




Thanks for that! Looks like a viable solution.


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Quote:

"Trailer in a bag"? Eff that.

The primary issue with a receiver mounted wheel chock towing device is you can't back up without jacknifing the bike. If you know that up front then you can plan accordingly.

I also suggest double-strapping the bike (two each side), with at least one set on a bar harness. It works well enough.




I didnt think about the jacknifing issue. Good to know. Thanks


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if you end up getting that, Jon, I'd love to know how it works out. I haven't pulled the trigger yet - but my research has landed me on that one as what I'll probably get.


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Ref: the sport bike one that holds the whole bike.

If you go that route don't forget to check the tongue weight of the vehicle you put it on. Other than the 1/2 ton real pickups many have a 400lb weight limit. Our bikes are over 500lbs.

Ex: My Dodge Caravan can tow 3600 but tongue weight is limited to 400. Start bouncing 5-600lbs on that thing I bet it can get really interesting.


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Ref: the sport bike one that holds the whole bike.

If you go that route don't forget to check the tongue weight of the vehicle you put it on. Other than the 1/2 ton real pickups many have a 400lb weight limit. Our bikes are over 500lbs.

Ex: My Dodge Caravan can tow 3600 but tongue weight is limited to 400. Start bouncing 5-600lbs on that thing I bet it can get really interesting.




Well I guess that one is out then because I know the tongue weight on my car is too low. As for my truck, I can just put my bike in the bed.

Looks like I will just go with the tow caddy I posted originally. I figure if it's a real short tow, I can leave the bike running to ensure the tranny gets lubricated. If it's a longer tow, I can take the chain loose.


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...if it's a real short tow, I can leave the bike running to ensure the tranny gets lubricated. If it's a longer tow, I can take the chain loose.




Or you could just tow it & not worry about it...


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