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We choose our marriage partners poorly. Maybe we should figure that out. I love those E-harmony adds where they are responsible for thousands of marriages daily. Thus consequently half that many divorces. Maybe we should have a moratorium on sex marriage and even dating till we figure out what works and what don't.
Ok, gotta admit, when my wife and I got married (24yrs ago) I'm thinking, dang, she's purty and I can't wait till tonight.....she on the other hand was hopeing that marrying an Ag major was going to be as profitable as an engineer ! or at least not to much of a financial hit !! BUT let me ad this.....in 27 years of my present occupation, the last few years and especially over the last year I've had alot of guys come into fill out employment applications that said, "wow, I'll ONLY make a couple hundred more than I am on unemployment" there is a a good segment of our population on the entitlement conestoga ....I want to help those who NEED it but I'm personally tired of carrying the bums that wont work when work is available ( speaking as one who has shoveled horse poop, stacked frozen chicken parts in a blast freezer and picked up cans , and other odd jobs) to feed my family..... My Dad is a WWII vet (went in right after his 17th birthday for the last few months of the war...was in the Pacific) he worked hard so I would have it easier than he did, as his Dad ( my grandfather) for him....but there is alot of truth in my "baby boomer generation" being babies and raising worse.....not saying this to point fingers but to point out what I've seen...just saw a fella buy his kid a late model Altima...kid trashed the transmission,,,,the parents were yelling at the mechanic, not the kid...the mechanic and I agreed it was imbecils having imbecils and not a hope of self sufficiency or independence......  I just want to jump on the bike and have a breakfast run to Tuccumcari, N.M. now ..... but that kid may have his car back and it would be my luck he is on I-40 headed West.......I don't know,,,maybe a good depression in this country would help thin the herd , so to speak......
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That's probably a very valid point there, Ron. However, I'm sure my mother(the one who adopted me, anyway) would have probably bristled at the idea that she was my father's "chattel". And that's 'cause she was kinda like a combination "Post War Rosie the Riveter/June Cleaver", because for many years of my childhood she had full-time employment out there in the workforce. And in fact, once when my father was laid off from his job as an Aerospace engineer for about a year or so, she actually supported the household financially during that time.
(...but yeah, once again, the idea that "gender roles" where starting to change around the early '70s, probably has a lot to do with the idea that women and mothers were no longer financially dependent upon their husbands, and so there were and now are a lot more "options" for the fairer sex)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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....I don't know,,,maybe a good depression in this country would help thin the herd , so to speak......
Not with all the social programs currently in place. And without them, I don't think we could stockpile enough ammunition to survive.
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Man if we could teach our youths the lessons of life that we have collectively shared here. Problem would be solved crisis over.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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Once again, WOW it always amazes me how a topic moves Way over the crossroads from where it started, but still has relivance to the main topic.  I think this has been a He!! of a good thread and have really liked seeing what has been written. Oh and Dwight and Chad you guys keep me laughing... CHEERS 
Mal: "Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun?{ref, Jayne} Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really, it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting."
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June Cleaver would have had no money Dwight. She would have taken her kids from that big house to a little apartment on the other side of town. She stayed for the kids.
Like she used say "Ward, don't you think you were a little hard on the beaver last night?"
Your mother is an exception.
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Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Hats off to your Mom Dwight. Every good mom deserves a proper salute, be they biological, or adoptive. The best resource any culture has is its moms. How does the saying go...."The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world".
That could be apart of the problem the devaluing of motherhood. I have heard it said in a snarky tone "shes a stay at home mom".
You see when a group of people are abused long enough the back lash is devistating. If men had loved their wives rather than abuse them and take them for granted we may have had a different out come.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
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Hats off to your Mom Dwight. Every good mom deserves a proper salute, be they biological, or adoptive. The best resource any culture has is its moms. How does the saying go...."The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world".
I'll certainly drink to that!
(...okay, and now at last count that's THREE beers here...and ya know my Pop always told me that "Moderation in all things" is the best course of action...so PLEASE everybody, don't make me have another one by makin' me salute anybody else here, OKAY?!)  
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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We choose our marriage partners poorly. Maybe we should figure that out. I love those E-harmony adds where they are responsible for thousands of marriages daily. Thus consequently half that many divorces. Maybe we should have a moratorium on sex marriage and even dating till we figure out what works and what don't.
Great idea Chad!!!
(You go first  )
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I have personal experience where the broken home is sometimes better than that same home being whole. I think marriage is take too lightly these days and people tend to opt out rather than fix whats broken and communicate their issues and compromise. That being said it is better to separate than constantly bicker and argue in front of the children. Sometimes differences can't be settled but this probably should have been given time to surface before procreation.
Absolutely. Staying together when you revile each other is a sure way to screw up your kids forever.
A bit of irony, my three siblings are conservative republicans who like to espouse 'traditional family values' (which I've come to realize means 'what is best for affluent white people'). Between them they have had seven spouses. Me, I'm just a live and let live liberal guy. I've been married once and have stayed that way for 26 years.
Btw Chet, ya know you may be right there...well, you AND Ian here, anyway.
Ya see, I was just lookin' at THIS chart here(sorry Ian, I know how much you hate statistics)...
...and I got to thinkin' how "The Greatest Generation"(that would be the WWII generation, of course) tended to keep their marriage vows intact(regardless here of what "region" we're talkin' about, and so we certainly can't make this a "political thing" at all), and THEN if you look at us "Boomers" and the "Gen-X"s ability to stay together, well, WE'VE really screwed THAT UP.
And so, the ONLY "logical" explanation here is that because the "The Greatest Generation" tended to stay together(like my Mom and Dad did), THEN, like you and Ian were sayin', they must have REALLY screwed up OUR minds in the process!!!!
Damn hippies roont it all.
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"Ward, don't you think you were a little hard on the beaver last night?"
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