Old Indian, Gilroy Indian or today's Indian? I rode a new Chief Blackhawk, lumbering, awkward and slow.... no thanks to all of the previous mentioned and a 30k + price tag. Polaris, I hope will trim some fat while keeping the Indian design and lower the price. Too old to ride a Norton proper so I will stick to my America. If I had the money to blow it would be Ural Retro.