I found that thread quite enlightening, alot about human nature in there. I read a lot of posts on here that have no constructive value, as far as the subject matter is concerned, however as insight to the person who is making the post, I have never read a "useless thread". You see those two guys who aren't getting along right now have a personality conflict, The one just wants to have fun, be happy, and spead some laughter. The other wants to be serious and share knowledge and information. WE NEED BOTH. You see Steve has been layed off from his job for some time, which is very depressing to deal with, so he deals by trying to keep the laughs comming. As far as I know Ron don't have that problem, but takes those quips as a jab at seriousness. It was not, Ron over reacted and he knows it now. My point is see how much a person can learn about the human condition by reading and paying attention to whats going on. All things about humanity are not pleasant but that don't make it not good. Many times I have seen someone get derided because they said something that was not serious, and it was very plain to see that they were not serious. But some one was taking the thread, or the post seriously, internalized it, and bam. Now they are offended. Then they take it upon themself to chastize someone, and errantly as well rather than is a reasonable way. This has happened a to more than a few people too (mostly new or newer guys). Where the same reaction would not be given to an older guy for the same thing. I have also seen new guys apologize, and still not get a reprieve. One guy apologized and actually got as a return "Do better next time". Thats not apology accepted carry on. Thats piss off on your apology. So for any one including me to pretend that, they or we are some kind of saint who always treats every one properly is wholely not true. So if any of you want to get their holy feelings hurt and leave sorry you feel that way, and I hope that you some day learn you are less than perfect and will return, because you will be accepted with open arms by all.


I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago. Edgar Allan Poe