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NY motorcyclist dies on ride protesting helmet law
#452565 07/04/2011 1:37 AM
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ONONDAGA, N.Y. (AP) — Police say a motorcyclist participating in a protest ride against helmet laws in upstate New York died after he flipped over the bike's handlebars and hit his head on the pavement.

The accident happened Saturday afternoon in the town of Onondaga, in central New York near Syracuse.

State troopers tell The Post-Standard of Syracuse that 55-year-old Philip A. Contos of Parish, N.Y., was driving a 1983 Harley Davidson with a group of bikers who were protesting helmet laws by not wearing helmets.

Troopers say Contos hit his brakes and the motorcycle fishtailed. The bike spun out of control, and Contos toppled over the handlebars. He was pronounced dead at a hospital.

Troopers say Contos would have likely survived if he had been wearing a helmet.

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Information from: The Post-Standard, http://www.syracuse.com />



http://news.yahoo.com/ny-motorcyclist-dies-ride-protesting-helmet-law-143217859.html

on another forum it was argued as to whether this is irony or not.?

Ironic or not?
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EDG1911 #452566 07/04/2011 1:40 AM
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Irony!

And bad luck!


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Zmilin #452567 07/04/2011 1:43 AM
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Zmilin #452568 07/04/2011 1:44 AM
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Irony!

And bad luck!




yes.

Someone also posted this picture that makes me chuckle eveytime I look at it.


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Zmilin #452569 07/04/2011 1:44 AM
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Isn't anemic when you have too many white blood cells??

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Isn't anemic when you have too many white blood cells??





could be...I thought it was low iron.

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Sort of like scoring an own goal - embarrassing.


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Anemic means a decrease of red blood cells but it can also mean weak in other contexts.


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The_Dog33 #452573 07/04/2011 10:16 AM
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a·ne·mic [uh-nee-mik]

–adjective
1. Pathology . suffering from anemia.
2. lacking power, vigor, vitality, or colorfulness; listless; weak: an anemic effort; anemic tones.

i·ro·ny [ahy-ruh-nee,]

–noun,
1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
2. Literature .
a. a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.
b. (especially in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., especially as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion.
3. Socratic irony.
4. dramatic irony.
5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
6. the incongruity of this.
7. an objectively sardonic style of speech or writing.
8. an objectively or humorously sardonic utterance, disposition, quality, etc.


I think irony fits here quite well.


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stevieB #452574 07/04/2011 10:45 AM
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Isn't anemic when you have too many white blood cells??




That's Leukocytosis. I've had it for several years now (not too sure why).


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Isn't anemic when you have too many white blood cells??




That's Leukocytosis. I've had it for several years now (not too sure why).




Ya want MY guess on that, Thanasis?!

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Oh, and here's MY reply to EDG's opinion poll...'cause I HATE IT whenever some "opinion poll" doesn't give me enough "options" to pick:

The guy was a freakin' MORON!!! 'Cause, not ONLY did his "choice" heighten his chances of WHAT HAPPENED to him, but ALSO what happened to him UNDERCUT the very point he was tryin' TO MAKE!!!

And thus, he was a MORON!!!

(...though as I've stated MANY MANY times around here, I PERSONALLY don't need some OTHER freakin' moron sittin' in some state capitol somewhere tellin' ME that NOT wearin' a freakin' helmet while ridin' a motorcycle is a REALLY REALLY dumb thing to do!!!...now THERE'S ya some "Irony", HUH???!!!!)


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I have to agree Dwight, on all points. Morons all around!!


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Missannies #452578 07/04/2011 3:53 PM
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Dwight, we have to let natural selection work my friend society is better off that way. Lemings run off cliffs some times.

I agree its safer to wear a helmet but its not "nanny" or "big brothers" place to decide for ya.


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I consider it 'culling the weak from the herd'.

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It's just sad - Ironic is when a bunch of PETA-types try to liberate hogs in Germany, and in the ensuing rush to freedom, are trampled and mutilated by the hogs.

My wife did point out this article to me this a.m. I confess to occasionally riding w/o the bucket, short ride to the store, and occasionally feel the need to go buck-nekkid from the neck up on the interstate. To me, hitting pavement at 75-85 mph ensures: 1. No half-a$$ed exit from this earthly realm, and the subsequent medical bills my family would have to deal with, and 2. Makes sure no one goes behind my back and counters my request for "cremation has already taken place, no services will be held."

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Ironic is when a bunch of PETA-types try to liberate hogs in Germany, and in the ensuing rush to freedom, are trampled and mutilated by the hogs.




Well this does involve hogs, and ideas of freedom, and vegetables..........


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Forgive my cynicism, but the guy died for nothing, and their effort is a might naive. A few hundred motorcyclist with no helmets will do little to nothing to influence a NY lawmaker. While I admire the rider's desire to make change, that isn't how it works today. It's no different than 20 or 30 people protesting war on the village green. It's a wonderful thing, but it accomplishes nothing. When you get up to 3 or 4 million protesters, now you might have some sway. I don't see that happening over NY helmets.

To change that helmet law would require at first boatloads of money pushed around to the the favorite causes and interests of the power brokers in NY legislature as offered by talented and effective, seasoned lobbyists. Even then, the deep pockets of the insurance industry lobby are going to make it a very steep slope to climb. Then there's the problem of re-election vs. repealing a safety law. Imagine the TV commercial spin of "Joe Blow is up for re-election. He's the guy who caused 122 no helmet motorcycle fatalities since 20XX by introducing the bill to repeal the helmet laws." Cut to weeping widows and orphans video footage, & zoom in on on little Jimmy: "If only Daddy had worn his helmet... we wouldn't be surviving on lawn clippings and grubs for dinner"

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wasn't any backlash against PA officials that I am aware of for repealing the helmet law. There were organized protests every year at the capitol run by ABATE. The bill passed a few times but languished on the Gov's desk until it expired. After that several time he finally signed the bill into law and now we don't have to wear a helmet in PA. One thing I don't like is a new rider does not have to wear a helmet if they take the safety course. I think a rider should be experienced before being allowed to go without.


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Forgive my cynicism, but the guy died for nothing, and their effort is a might naive. A few hundred motorcyclist with no helmets will do little to nothing to influence a NY lawmaker. While I admire the rider's desire to make change, that isn't how it works today. It's no different than 20 or 30 people protesting war on the village green. It's a wonderful thing, but it accomplishes nothing. When you get up to 3 or 4 million protesters, now you might have some sway. I don't see that happening over NY helmets.

To change that helmet law would require at first boatloads of money pushed around to the the favorite causes and interests of the power brokers in NY legislature as offered by talented and effective, seasoned lobbyists. Even then, the deep pockets of the insurance industry lobby are going to make it a very steep slope to climb. Then there's the problem of re-election vs. repealing a safety law. Imagine the TV commercial spin of "Joe Blow is up for re-election. He's the guy who caused 122 no helmet motorcycle fatalities since 20XX by introducing the bill to repeal the helmet laws." Cut to weeping widows and orphans video footage, & zoom in on on little Jimmy: "If only Daddy had worn his helmet... we wouldn't be surviving on lawn clippings and grubs for dinner"




Excellent analysis, Martin!

(...and no, you were NOT being "cynical" here...you were just being a realist)


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I consider it 'culling the weak from the herd'.



Hmmmm, I like that!


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Keith #452586 07/05/2011 5:03 PM
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The story says Harley but isn't that a honda in the picture?


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I understand that the local ABATE chapter is planning a memorial ride for him like he was a freaking hero or something. In the words of Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon!!!"

One less idiot to wave to on the roads.

No sympathy from me. Sorry.


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JCBullen #452588 07/05/2011 5:15 PM
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Come on man he's a martyr. He died for a cause man


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