Yep Ian, and like I was sayin', the sidestands on the newer H-Ds don't feel like they're fully deployed, even when they are.
And, Ducati for years had that whole "designed to go up by themselves when you'd swing the bike upright" thing goin' on, and of which I always thought was a left-side turn-signal smash(at a minimum) just waitin' to happen, too!
