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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
Gregger #447455 05/29/2011 9:08 PM
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Squirrel condoms are new.

When my side stand switch got corroded and killed the bike two years ago it didn't have these symptoms. And, as far as I know it should still start when not in gear.

Home now, going out to check for spark. If that's present then I guess I'll pull the carbs and start going through those. That will probably be tomorrow, though.


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
FriarJohn #447456 05/29/2011 9:32 PM
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STRONG!

Stuck an old spark plug in the left side and grounded it. Spark.

Stuck that plug into the right side and grounded it. Not only did it spark, the engine was trying to start on one cylinder.

Put the right side plug wire back and it fired right up.

Runs STRONG. Didn't even need the choke to stay running (although the choke was on when it started).

Stock CDI.

Tomorrow I put the tank on and see if I can run it. If I get no problems, I yank it all apart to try and re-waterproof the stock CDI and button it all up.

Any suggestions on what I should coat the CDI with to waterproof it? Silicone? Leak-Ender 3000?

Boys and girls, there's still a chance.

I'll probably put the orange tank back on just because I know that petcock doesn't leak. I won't have the new tank on or the new pipes, but if it runs, it runs.


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
FriarJohn #447457 05/29/2011 9:42 PM
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If you ride Ill bring the coils with me.
You should bring the Procom also... maybe we can have a tech day in Prescott.


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
Zmilin #447458 05/29/2011 10:23 PM
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I'll bring everything I got.


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
FriarJohn #447459 05/29/2011 10:43 PM
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Congratulations, John! Maybe the crossed fingers some of us had for you made a difference! It's starting to look like Procom puts out the odd faulty CDI unit. But wait... why did your bike crap out last fall if not for the CDI? Hmmmm... ! Meanwhile I'll still keep my fingers crossed for ya, bud! Good luck out there!!!


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
Keith #447460 05/29/2011 10:45 PM
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I got a Procom unit just over a week ago, and the bike would not run right on any map, the tach quit working, and it would not idle at all. Sent it back and have a new one now, just haven't installed it yet. Yeah, there is an occasional faulty unit.


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
roadworthy #447461 05/29/2011 11:17 PM
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If it runs on the stock CDI I'll sort it out later. Maybe we'll play with it in Prescott like Zmilin suggested.


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
FriarJohn #447462 05/29/2011 11:56 PM
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I'll bring the Service manuals, we have the Haynes service and repair manual, picked it up just this March while at the Clubman's All Brit show in San Jose. We also have the Triumph Service Manual.

Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
HabuBA #447463 05/30/2011 12:06 AM
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You have a toy hauler. You should always have those things with you.


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
FriarJohn #447464 05/30/2011 8:04 AM
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If it would help I can send you the manual in PDF form...

Dielectric grease is the weather sealer you want. A nice bead around the collar on the ignitor as well as the pins and you should be good to go. I'd also look at the neutral indicator and make sure it hasn't gotten all wobbly since it's all alone under the transmission.


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
oldroadie #447465 05/30/2011 11:34 AM
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I've got both manuals, thanks.

And I've always run dialectic grease in all my connectors.

I need to know what to use on the OUTSIDE of the CDI to seal it back up. I know Chy did it before but I can't find the conversation we had last Fall.


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
FriarJohn #447466 05/30/2011 11:51 AM
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AmyLee said, carry a hair dryer, it works great at getting the moisture out.

Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
HabuBA #447467 05/30/2011 12:10 PM
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On the outside? Why not one of the many RTVs; easy to peel away if you need to and hi-temp to boot.


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
oldroadie #447468 05/30/2011 12:15 PM
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Be careful. RTV silicone releases acetic acid while curing. Not good for electrical connectors.


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
FriarJohn #447469 05/30/2011 12:48 PM
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Quote:

I know Chy did it before but I can't find the conversation we had last Fall.




is this it:
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I don't remember who came up with the idea originally but it seems to work.. I wiped the module clean with a rag and used black 3m silicone to seal the gap between the cdi and the mounting bracket.
I did my bike and Blue (you should be good to go PES) and also did Steve Sixmils at the rally this year when he had similar issues on the Cherohala Skyway.



LINK to thread for above comment


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
Zmilin #447470 05/30/2011 1:36 PM
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That's great, thanks.

However, this morning I no longer have spark with either CDI. So that means coils or worse.

I'm driving.

See you Friday.


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
FriarJohn #447471 05/30/2011 1:41 PM
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That sucks man. Stock coils?


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
roadworthy #447472 05/30/2011 1:50 PM
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Yep. Can't replace them (unless I go raid Freedom's speedmaster) in time. And I'm not sure that's the problem. But there's not a lot left, unless the procom fried wiring. It ran last night, though. I'm just disgusted with the whole thing.

I have a solution, but it won't be here until June 10th.


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
FriarJohn #447473 05/30/2011 3:07 PM
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Sorry John! Glad your still coming down though.


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
FriarJohn #447474 05/30/2011 5:19 PM
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Quote:

(unless I go raid Freedom's speedmaster)




Heck man, take the whole bike. It's got 4 wheels, it's funky

jh


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
freedom #447475 05/30/2011 7:00 PM
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If I'm bringing 4 wheels I'm bringing heat, AC and a radio.


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
FriarJohn #447476 05/30/2011 7:34 PM
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John (Friar, not Freedom)...
I just went to gas up for tomorrow morning and my bike didn't want to start.
I was fiddling with it earlier, greasing up my coils, igniter, plugs and kick stand switch connection so if I hit rain Id be ok...
Turns out one of my coils was loose.

Just thought Id throw that out there in case you want to make one last effort...
plug connection
continuity through plug wire
coil connection
coil power and ground wires

thats what I checked and she fired up.


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Re: BANG YOU'RE DEAD
Zmilin #447477 05/30/2011 7:38 PM
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I checked all that. Thanks.


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