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Sigh  . Maybe Bedouin can help, Tatkinese is Greek to most of us, after all  .
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In fact if you think about it we are a common people only divided by language(they don't speak English) and a sense of humour.
Don't forget their legendary prowess at soap dodging!
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Snopes is to fact checking as Google is to searching.....
Couldn't agree more...it is at the top of my favorites list, and ANYBODY who sends me a "so called truth email" that has failed to check snopes before forwarding it to everyone-they-ever-met-in-their-life, typically gets a scathing email from me and to all of their reicipiants, informing them of how stupid they look for forwarding it, and a link to the " truth about their mistake " most will then add to their favorites as well...especialy after looking like such a clown
OH SURE...Phil and Rob! NOW you guys tell us about this SNOPES thing!!! 
Where the HELL were YOU GUYS when all this unpleasantry that's been unfolding in the Middle East(and elsewhere around this freakin' planet), THAT NOW appears to have been COMPLETELY AVOIDABLE if only YOU GUYS would have just advised THOSE CLOWNS over there to Snopes the word...."FUNDAMENTALISM"!!!  
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(hey....and WHY does that word begin with FUN anyway? I just don't SEE it!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I' m french canadian and proud to be one. Like everybody should be proud of there country.
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I'm French, Canadian AND Polish. I can't catch a break.
OK guys, pet peeve time (and so I'm not jst singling out FriarJohn). You are where you are born - period. It seems to be an affliction of Americans that no-one is actually American but always claims to be something else. The phrase "I'm part Irish, part German, part English, and a hint Apache" makes no sense at all. You may have ancestors who hail from different countries, but on that basis we are all ultimately African, so we can, logically, claim to be anything we want!
No, just because you're called Paddy O'Cohen and drink Guinness doesn't make you Irish unless you have an Irish birth certificate. What's so wrong with being proud of your country of birth? If you're American, be American, and don't use the fact that 200 years ago your second-cousins mother's sister's uncle stowed away on the Mayflower to claim that you're Scottish. You're not.
When someone claims "I'm X" in order to somehow be seen as being privy to the history and culture of X, that's a fraud. If I hear one more person say "Oh, I'm English" and then ramble on forever about a country that (a) they've never seen, and (b) never lived in, and then proceed to lecture ME about my home country, I swear I will use a large, irregularly shaped object and insert it, unlubed, into the orifice from which they are speaking - and that's not the mouth.
Phew, now I feel better Nothing like a little venting to help you through the day. Still, that's to be expected because I'm part Visigoth and Viking.
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Siggy! WELL....I tell YOU somethin' BOY!(and put down that "large, irregularly shaped object...PLEASE)
I VISITED the VISIGOTHS once...and let me tell ya...those people o' yours REALLY know how to PARTY...BABY!!!
Actually...I HEAR YA, man! But you've got to remember that unfortunately TRIBALISM still runs deep in the human soul, and NOT just in certain parts of the under-developed regions of the world.
I think this...."I'm Proud to be (insert your heritage here) stuff" IS also like saying..."I sure am proud that the logistics of my parents existence is/was right here/there, BOY"!
How about we start something like the following:
"I sure am PROUD that I try to LEARN SOMETHING NEW ABOUT MYSELF AND OTHERS every single friggin' DAY"!
Cheers,
Dwight
(NAWWW....that'll NEVER take off)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Dwight As a trivial aside - although I suspect that, by definition, many asides are trivial - I'll be arriving at LAX this Monday at 7:00 pm, so if you're around and up for a beer at the LAX Hilton before 11:00 pm (I'm old enough to have to go to bed early these days) we could swap lies and put the world to rights for an hour Siggy
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You got it buddy! I get off work at 10pm that night, so I'll ride over(it's right down the road from NWA Cargo at LAX) and the first round's on ME! Now...one question: I know you're one of them thare English fellas, right? Sooo, just how much o' one o' those cockney accents do ya have, anyway? I mean...am I gonna have to find me a translator at those facilities that ol' Conrad Hilton started up years ago, OR NOT!!!(hopefully it's of the BBC sort...I got's NO PROBLEM with THAT THERE accent) Cheers, Dwight (what WAS that thing that Irishman G.B.Shaw famously said about "two peoples separated by a common language"?)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I' m french canadian and proud to be one. Like everybody should be proud of there country.
Hi Jean-Luc.
Good to hear from you and hope to see you in GA, my friend.
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" - Robert Heinlein
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Will it make my TBA sick? I don't know if I should put it in. Charlie
Charlie,
It won't make your TBA sick, but she may turn on you - be careful!!!
Also, don't try to race a BMW or NSU, it will automatically surrender.
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You are where you are born - period
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I think the PC Media people need to take the blame for this. I get pretty miffed when i hear the expression "African American". Where the hell did that come from. Half of the "African Amercan" people dont even know where Africa is.
I hate the PC media more than anthing. Why can't they call old people, 'Old People'. Thats what they are. Senior Citizens works for me. But where did the expression "Young at Heart" come from to describe old people. Give me a break.
Whats next. Calling Todlers "Age Challenged", or 'Person of limited maturity'. ooh, hang on.....thats me.
Oh and PS....Im 100% English But my children are 100% American, and are going to stay that way.
Now, can we get back to bashing the French
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You are where you are born - period.
To true, well almost!!
I am British by birth, but ENGLISH by the Grace of God.
I will now sit back and wait for the flak from my Welsh and Scottish brothers, and take it with smile 
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Oh and PS....Im 100% English But my children are 100% American, and are going to stay that way.
Perhaps we should say "You are where your heart is." Arsenalfan was born in England but from what I've read he's an American. I expect most everyone who moves here maintains some affinity for the land of their birth. BUT, if that remains their main affinity they should move their butts back!
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Mark, If PC means: Vertically challenged = short arse Fiscally challenged = skint Folically challenged = baldicoot Weight challenged = me (fat bloke) What would the French be? Paul
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Of course, having said "you are where you're born," there are times when you can play the "ancestor" card to our benefit. Some years back, I was in Dublin, Ireland, staying at a guest house and watching the Irish team get into the fourth round of the World Cup. This was a first, so everyone was amazingly happy (Dublin center shut down for the evening do folks could run around from bar to bar celebrating!).
I happened to mention that my grandmother was a Finnegan, whereupon the owner of the guest house exclaimed, "Well begorrah, you're practically one of us then!" and promptly cracked upon a new bottle of his finest whiskey. Needless to say it was early in the morning when I rolled to bed - it would have been extremely impolite for a Finnegan to have refused to help empty the bottle.
So, leveraging ancestry can work in your favor.
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'Your mother was a hampster and your father smelled of elderberries"... "Now get out of here or I shall taunt a second time you silly English Knnnigits "
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Rob,
Now this is your last chance. I've been more than reasonab...
Boy they'll be sending the Black Knight next.
Paul
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I am British by birth, but ENGLISH by the Grace of God.
Uhmm...you're not from Bradford are you Paul?
Do you see what you've started here Phil?!
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If PC means: ....... What would the French be?
Now Paul. Have you not read the acceptable use policy. You know that kind of langauge is not allowed on here.
Ooh, and as i have mentioned before on here. When bad mouthing all things French, Do not include THIERRY HENRY. Hes allright, one of the good ones. Salt of the earth type. Well until he buggers off to Barcelona anyway.
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Arsenalfan was born in England but from what I've read he's an American
Sssshhh, Strictly between you and me. And dont let any of those people on the other side of the pond here this. But as soon as I get my lazy behind of the couch and get myself over to the INS place in Memphis. I will become a fully fledge American.
I guess that would make me a English American
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the Black Knight next.
Paul
I hear he's invincable!
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Most of the people I meet here in NY identify with some sort of nationality. They are italian, or irish, Jewish, whatever. So they always ask me "what are you?" and since that list is WAY too long anyway, I just say I'm a Vermonter Heck my family has lived in Vermont since before it joined the union...
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One name. Vercingetorix. Now HE was a very cool Gallic (French) hero. AND, he was a Celt as well.  (Neep!)
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Man, do you guys go on! Charlie
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but the people themselves? No...
Don't you mean "non" Phil?
I actually agree, although I will freely admit to perpetuating French Army jokes when around my German friends. But I have a couple French friends (real French, not those Quebecois posers from Canada!hehe) and they too are first rate, just as are my German friends and even some of my English friends are ok too!!(not as swell as my friends from north of the River Tweed, but fair enough nonetheless!!!)
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their collective sense of humor is LEGENDARY!!!
I don't understand Dwight, was FJ being funny?
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If it wasn't for the guys of my dad's generation, they'd be speaking German in France. Charlie
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they'd be speaking German in France
I can think of worse things to happen. At least then the beer would be drinkable!!
Sadly, my one attempt at learning French was spoiled for good by a French-American (teaching French of course), who tried every bit to live up to the stereotype of a rude Parisian. He mocked every mistake that we students made, and made us feel as if we didn't deserve to learn HIS language! Had he been more like my German professor (who fled west from the Russians as a teenager in postwar German Poland) I'd speak French as fluently today as I speak German. Beautiful language as well as a beautiful country, which, just like this country (or any), can be spoiled by a few bad apples.
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Holy cow y'all - Greg's back! What's it been- about a month? Figured you headed off to Colorado...but it sounds like you been hanging around with some frenchies instead!  Welcome back, hope everything is alright.
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Hiya Roundy, do I officially qualify as a lurker now?
Nah, been beating the tea-totaling hell out of the job boards, and had a couple promising interviews, but no go so far. Found a couple more REALLY promsising ones today (one in Grand Junction, CO, one in CO Springs, and the other in northern Denver. In all fairness, the one in Aurora that I interviewed for was pretty nasty (automotive battery factory, very dirty, kind of a risky place to work health-wise, although if they had made a decent offer, I'd have jumped). The Grand Junction one is almost dead center up my alley, albeit a bit farther west from family in Denver than I wanted, but still an easy 3-4 hour drive and in BEAUTIFUL country!! We'll see though. Just been a kind of strange last few months though, haven't felt like posting or visting much (maybe all that trying to set Phil straight so often just sucked the life out of me(grin). Of course, I have also been "restoring" my VW from the 2 1/2 years of abuse at the hands of my wife, and it is now almost back to the pristine condition I gave it to her in, so that has sucked both my time and the contents of my wallet. Always something, but as they say, C'est la vie!!!!
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I must be a doctor . Quote:
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You can't say vertically challanged anymore because it implies something bad. Now, you have to say clearance enhanced.
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You are where you are born - period.
Whatever. You are mistaking nationality for genetics. People are so afraid to identify with anything besides the good ol U.S. of A.
1. This whole thread is about semantics.
2. I'm getting sick and ****** tired of all these declaritive statements and gross generalizations, as if they are the Ultimate Truthâ„¢. Bullshite.
3. My DNA is the sum of the DNA of my mother and father, who are the sum of their parent's DNA and so on.
4. I only identify as French-Canadian, Polish and English because I don't want to tell anyone I was born in California.
Whoops.
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Ive got to say something here guys I am truly bored with this thread! french bashing (yawn) been there read that. Americans here is a shocker, we are a country of mutts. My Moms parents came from Italy, My dads family came from Ireland and England (yawn). You know this thread started out saying this Quote:
Now I know for a fact that we have French members on this site. I know one of them personally and he is an outstanding person. I can't even imagine how he feels when he sees the bashing. I have never had a problem with the French or France. I sometimes don't agree with what their government does or how it acts but the people themselves?
I truly hate when we turn into a bad joke forum its below us and quite frankly insulting
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1. This whole thread is about semantics.
2. I'm getting sick and ****** tired of all these declaritive statements
Pendant that I am, I can't shy away from pointing out the logical flaw in these two statements. A declarative sentence is a syntactic phenomenon, not a semantic one. Ergo, if we accept as true that the thread contains declaratives (and is therefore, by definition, a syntactic topic), then this whole thread cannot be about semantics. Certainly some of this thread is about semantics, but not all.
On the other hand, I suppose I really could try and get a life
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re: my previous post.
I'd just like to take the opportunity to point out that folks should bear in mind - at all times - that my philosophical leanings are towards an existentialist viewpoint, more specifically in the direction of nihilism, absurdism (Albert Camus, another whacky frenchman) and Monty Pythonism. Given that I had my tongue surgically implanted firmly into my cheek many years ago, anything I say should be taken with a stupendously large container of salt.
If life wasn't so pointless and absurd, I would take it more seriously.
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4. I only identify as French-Canadian, Polish and English because I don't want to tell anyone I was born in California.
Whoops.
A perfectly legitimate reason!! 
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semantics who the fcuk are they? i thought we were slagging the frogs. oops i mean french (huuuccchhh ptooo)  and you cant mention fillosofy and monty pythonism in the same paragraf without a good old sing song so all together now.......................1......2......3. Immanuel Kant was a real pissant Who was very rarely stable. Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar Who could drink you under the table. David Hume could out-consume Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, And Wittgenstein was a beery swine Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel. There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya' 'Bout the raising of the wrist. SOCRATES, HIMSELF, WAS PERMANENTLY PISSED... John Stuart Mill, of his own free will, On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill. Plato, they say, could stick it away Half a crate of whiskey every day. Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle, Hobbes was fond of his dram, And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart: "I drink, therefore I am" Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed; A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed! Free Monty Python Music Downloads(not a political statement)
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