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Re: Bin Laden is Dead?
FriarJohn #442519 05/04/2011 6:51 AM
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water boarding is quite brilliant. Here we have to interrogate terrorist who WANT to die for their cause. Water boarding gets us the information without giving them virgins, without so much as ripping off a single fingernail, breaking a single bone. Now exactly where is the horrible disfiguring torture?

Now back to the Allah's turd. We should have taken him alive. Then reenacted that scene from Hannibal where he gets tossed into a pig pen with at least one ravished pig.


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Re: Bin Laden is Dead?
FriarJohn #442520 05/04/2011 7:15 AM
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I suppose it was a good result.

I'm not saying the USA did the wrong thing but basically it should have been carried out, no video evidence, no witnesses left, destroy the building in a fire and no more said. They should have made it look like a house fire or gas explosion, same end result without the questionss.

There is now more speculation as to what went on, who was there, who got shot, who survived did he die a hero or a coward.

So now the the US government has to reveal exactly what happened and the subsequent sh**storm that will undoubtedly follow.

Big moral question though - apparently there were some of his kids in the compound - shoot them too? After all, the dead tell no tales.

I'd say to the US munitions industry, better get busy because there is gonna be a big demand for bullets, bombs and missiles in the aftermath of this.

One rag down.......many many more to come.


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Re: Bin Laden is Dead?
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Actually, every real intelligence analyst I've heard speak said that, while that is certainly one possibility, it is far more likely that they are going to go to ground for some time. Those folks were pretty afraid of US Special Forces before. It's safe to say they are more afraid now.

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I agree more with Smokey , If you think about If we can Bin Laden who had money and loyal followers wounder how other dirtbags THINK they can get away with it..Guess they always have suicid bombs !


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JasonSonOfEd #442523 05/04/2011 10:48 AM
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I'm guessing the mission parameters (assuming it all went down roughly as advertised) were:

1-kill or capture OBL (preferably kill)
2-verify DNA
3-gather any and all intel onsite
4-destroy all traces of his existence
5-get on with life

No pomp and circumstance, minimal showboating. No carrier speeches with giant banners. Get back to business back at home.

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Re: Bin Laden is Dead?
FriarJohn #442524 05/04/2011 1:15 PM
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An old coworker just sent me this...

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I found out that the SEAL team confiscated several disc drives when they killed Osama bin Laden, and on one of them they discovered what turns out to be footage from his last video production for Al Queda. The transcript goes as follows:
"And we will not cease until the Great Satan has... wait a second, there's someone at the door."

Made that one up myself, but I'm sure there are derivatives all over the place.

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Re: Bin Laden is Dead?
FriarJohn #442525 05/04/2011 5:34 PM
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If they had brought him in alive, wouldn't they have been compelled to read him his Miranda Rights, try him in New York and provide him an ACLU attorney? Isn't that Holder's position? Would have been a recruiting bonanza. Much better that it's over and I agree, organized terrorists worldwide will go to ground, but we may still see a few independents act out.

Re: Bin Laden is Dead?
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What you all don't realise is this has left the opening for a far more evil predessor who was just waiting for a chance to step up to the plate...

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IMHO the issue of kill vs capture boils down to the liklihood that were OBL allowed to live, it would have led to numerous hostage situations world wide in an attempt to gain his release. Therefore his death has saved many from that particular fate. And anyway, revenge is a dish best served cold. ;-)


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MACMC #442528 05/04/2011 10:34 PM
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You guys from Iowa and Colorado are wussies, I would have brought him back alive and turned him loose at ground zero NYC on the 4th of July or maybe 9/11/2011.



Yeah, like he would have let them take him alive.... But, I'll see your Ground Zero and raise you JFK Airport in NYC. If the rudeness of the people there, and the absolute clusterf**k of an airport doesn't send him to the looney bin clawing his eyes out, then you can have him for whatever you want...


By the way, I think I scraped something brown and smelly from KC off of my boots last time I was through there, want it back?

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Dwight #442529 05/05/2011 1:19 AM
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(...and now, does anybody wanna talk about Roswell NM???...IT WAS A FRIGGIN' WEATHER BALLOON MADE OF MYLAR!!!!)






Hey!
I know a guy who was born in Roswell a few years after the incident.
And everyone who knows this dude is convinced that it had to be an alien spacecraft


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Re: Bin Laden is not Dead?
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He has been spotted in disguise.





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Bugbear #442531 05/05/2011 11:41 AM
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Oy, some things just can't be unseen...


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Re: Bin Laden is not Dead?
FriarJohn #442532 05/05/2011 11:49 AM
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Yeah, but look on the BRIGHT side here, John!

The chances of THAT guy bein' enticed to strap on some explosive device, walk into some public area and detonate it WITH the promise that 72 virgins are waitin' for him in The Hereafter, are pretty much nil I'd say!!!



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Gregu710 #442533 05/05/2011 11:39 PM
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No you keep it, we got tons of it, spread it in your garden works wonders for tomatoes.


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This seems like the appropriate time for this joke:

After his death, Osama bin Laden went to heaven.
There he was greeted by George Washington, who proceeded to slap him across the face and yell at him, "How dare you try to destroy the nation I helped conceive!"
Patrick Henry approached and punched Osama in the nose and shouted, "You wanted to end our liberties but you failed." James Madison entered, kicked Osama and said, "This is why I allowed our government to provide for the common defense!"
Thomas Jefferson came in and proceeded to beat Osama many times with a long cane and said, "It was evil men like you that provided me the inspiration to pen the Declaration of Independence!".
These beatings and thrashings continued as John Rudolph, James Monroe and 66 other early Americans came in and unleashed their anger on the terrorist leader.
As Osama lay bleeding and writhing in unbearable pain an Angel appeared. Bin Laden wept in pain and said to the Angel, "This is not what you promised me."
The Angel replied, "I told you there would be 72 Virginians waiting for you in heaven. What did you think I said?"

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No you keep it, we got tons of it, spread it in your garden works wonders for tomatoes.




Heck, I'm ok with soil and stuff, I just need some non-stop warm sunny days to get my pathetic tomatoes and peppers moving. They're about 4 weeks old and maybe an 2 inches high!!

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Alright guys. Conflicting media stories. Apparently congress looked at faked pics. Former presidents will not appear with our present one. Something is amiss.


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Theres a new drink called the " Bin Laden "


Its 2 shots and a splash of water.......


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Donny #442538 05/06/2011 11:19 AM
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Theres a new drink called the " Bin Laden "


Its 2 shots and a splash of water.......








(...oh, you can bet I'm gonna use that one on my bartender the next time I walk into my local watering hole...though I'm sure he'll have probably heard this one more than few times before I spring it on him!)


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Dwight #442539 05/06/2011 11:38 AM
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The other OBL drink is called "Lead Poisoning." The CIA has the ingredients but they haven't decided whether or not to release them to the public.


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FriarJohn #442540 05/06/2011 11:42 AM
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That's a pretty good one too, John!


Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I don't think that's one that I'd like to try.


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FriarJohn #442542 05/06/2011 12:10 PM
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The other OBL drink is called "Lead Poisoning.".




That's an old South African one from the Apartheid years.

They'd put up a list of dead prisoners/activists and the causes of death that looked something like this:

Mr. A - 3/20/1972 - Heart Attack.
Mr. B - 4/17/1971 - Lung Cancer.
Mr. C - 5/22/1970 - Severe Lead Poisoning.
Mr. D - 5/22/1970 - Severe Lead Poisoning.
Mr. E - 5/22/1970 - Severe Lead Poisoning.
Mr. F - 5/22/1970 - Severe Lead Poisoning.
Mr. G - 4/12/1973 - Heart Attack.
Mr. H - 7/15/1972 - Emphesima.
Mr. I - 4/12/1971 - Heart Attack.
Mr. J - 8/19/1971 - Severe Lead Poisoning.
Mr. K - 8/19/1971 - Severe Lead Poisoning.
Mr. L - 8/19/1971 - Severe Lead Poisoning.
Mr. M - 9/22/1974 - Respiratory failure (waterboarding?).
Mr. N - 7/12/1972 - Stomach Cancer.
Mr. O - 3/21/1971 - Severe Lead Poisoning.

Something like that anyway, no kidding!

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Bedouin #442543 05/06/2011 12:14 PM
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"Emphysema"???!!!

Well, I suppose there's some satisfaction in knowin' those prisoners could still get their smokes, huh Thanassis?!


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Lead poisoning isn't the joke... the CIA part is...


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FriarJohn #442545 05/06/2011 12:19 PM
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CIA releasing that on the public. John your not one of those militia guys are ya ?


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Yeah John, however, I have a feelin' this CIA strategy might actually work against the interests of our country in the long-term!

Uh huh, ya see, the way I'm thinkin' o' this, maybe one of the key reasons those terrorist out there are sooooo friggin' stupid and backward is 'cause maybe back when they were little terrorists-to-be, they might've been eatin' paint chips with lead in it, and so that lead poisoning led to 'em growin' up to BE that stupid and backward as adults.

And so, maybe if INSTEAD of hoarding this bit of information, the CIA would spread the word and enlighten those forks that THIS might've been the cause of much of that stupidity and backwardness, then MAYBE the next generation of those folks might NOT be as much like that.

But, yeah, I suppose my idea here is all predicated on the possibility that those terrorists are open to the idea of modern scientific thought about Chemistry and Physiology, and NOT JUST what their "Holy Book" tells 'em is "true", which seems a VERY remote possibility at this time.

(...so yeah, maybe the CIA knows what they're doin' after all, huh?!)


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Well Dwight how do you explain all those
Presumably affected by " paint chip" diets that live here.


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Well Dwight how do you explain all those
Presumably affected by " paint chip" diets that live here.




It was all a plot by Sherwin-Williams to keep us 'Mericans fat, dumb and happy!

(...and 2 out of 3 of those aims would go on to hit their mark!!!)


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In some cases it could be all three, but for the most part (How does the song go? "Two outta three aint bad".)


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In some cases it could be all three, but for the most part (How does the song go? "Two outta three aint bad".)




Yep Chad, and ironically THAT'S one of the reasons for Number-1 there...'Mericans are eatin' WAY too much "meatloaf", and not enough vegetables!!!

(...yeah, I know...that one WAS a real "stretch" there, wasn't it???!!!)



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Maybe we need a rockstar named after some vegies. Instead of Meatloaf, and Bread


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Vanilla Fudge?

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Caesar Salad?

First album name... "Hail Caesar!"

Sample song titles... "Rock on, Crou-ton", "Dressing for successing", and the 17 minute epic, "Tossed about in the salad bowl of life".

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Found this clip about the latest member of the deep sea divers club's after life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgxVwR-1rr0


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Well, I guess I can take a bottle of shampoo in my carry-on again now.

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Well, I guess I can take a bottle of shampoo in my carry-on again now.




Don't hold your breath.


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Well, I guess I can take a bottle of shampoo in my carry-on again now.




Sure, as long as you are a middle eastern male between 18 and 35 with a one way ticket and wearing a bulky looking jacket. If you're a 6 year old blond kid, a 75 year old nun or a 40ish WASP businessman expect to be fondled, xrayed and all your stuff dumped out. Can't be profiling you know, that's worse than being killed.


We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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