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I've upgraded my turn signals to led rears, Kuryakyn brand, and have bikemaster led signal/mirrors in front. I installed a load equalizer on the rear signal line but not on the front. The problem is now I have rapid blinking. Prior to installing the load equalizer, I had no signals. I've searched the forum archives and found nothing on this specifically. Do I need a load equalizer on the front end as well? Or, would an led relay work?? Price is roughly the same for both products. Appreciate any input.
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All I can tell you is I used the LED relay and it worked great.
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Sounds to me like you need another resistor up front. I only needed one in the back, yours must create less resistance than the one I bought. You can also use a flasher made for LED instead of a load resistor.
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All I can tell you is I used the LED relay and it worked great.
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If you use the linked below flasher made for LEDs, you can eliminate resistors. I've used all LEDs in the signals, and now use conventional tungsten based bulbs up front, and LEDs in the rear, and have never had a problem and have never used resistors. I believe the FL 3 is the one we use. http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/s...%2Fflashers.htmIf you go this route, I can verify the flasher model if need be. I see they now put mounting tabs on them. Mine didn't have the tab, but if it did, I'd lop off that rubber falls apart mess the factory installed, and zap screw the flasher to the frame. FWIW - when the supplier above states their LEDs are bright, they aren't kidding. Good products from there.
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Martin's idea is the best... swap out the flasher for one made for LED lights. Much cleaner, easier and in the end even cheaper if I'm not mistaken, than adding resistors.
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Yep I second that, get the flasher, and replace your existing globes with LED's too. "Load balancers" are nothing more than big chunky resistors that convert electricity into heat to simulate the load caused by a standard bulb, and undo one of the best features of an LED replacement.
Oh and no, you shouldn't need a second load balancer on the front... the front and rear globes are connected directly and the electricity can't tell if it's going forward or backward. Electrically speaking the globes are right beside each other. You'll probably find it's because you've mixed & matched standard globes and LEDs, and the balancer's designed for all LEDs.
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so if you just get a flasher for LED lights as Freddy and Bucky said, you wont need a load resistor?
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I think I need to clarify something. All the signals are led. There are no standard bulbs on the signal circuit. And, it wouldn't work at all until I added the load resistor. The flasher sounds like the solution. My question now is, where do I tie it in to the circuit? Same place I have the load resistor now?
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Plug & play; the LED-compatible flasher simply replaces the OEM flasher. No supplemental resitors needed.
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The flasher made for LED circuits is a direct replacement of the stock flasher. Just swap it out and yer done.
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Plug & play; the LED-compatible flasher simply replaces the OEM flasher. No supplemental resitors needed.
Cool, Thanks!
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Thanks for the info. Flasher replacement it is. One last question. Since there are literally thousands of these, what specifically do I need as far as watts, volts, etc...
Last edited by Kent; 03/21/2011 10:42 PM.
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Martin's idea is the best... swap out the flasher for one made for LED lights. Much cleaner, easier and in the end even cheaper if I'm not mistaken, than adding resistors.
I have led's in back and stock blinker up front and this flasher will work with that setup. You do loose the clicking sound the blinker makes. But I have a led indicator that is hard to miss.
the relay is a simple plug and play. no splicing or cutting wires.
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Thanks for the info. Flasher replacement it is. One last question. Since there are literally thousands of these, what specifically do I need as far as watts, volts, etc...
This one will do the job!
http://bellacorse.com/bcc169.htm
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....I believe the FL 3 is the one we use. http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/s...%2Fflashers.htm..
Not that one: CF13GL-02 is the correct one for Triumphs.
Note that when you convert to LED turn signals you will also have to do the diode mod on the indicator lamp to isolate the two signals - otherwise you are likely to have all 4 flashers work as if 'emergency' mode, regardless of which side is switched. (This will not happen if you use the load equalizer resistors - but WILL if you just use LEDs and an electronic flasher module)

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... This one will do the job!
http://bellacorse.com/bcc169.htm
Be careful - that one has shown recently not to work with certain types of LED turn signal - the lowest level current threshold is higher than the SuperBrightLeds one above, which will operate down to a much lower level (remember LEDs are very low current devices) It will work in many (possibly even could say majority)cases but have recently seen where one instance where users LEDs would not function with this device.
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