 loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1
Second Wind
|
OP
Second Wind
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1 |
last night I nearly dumped my bike trying to miss some dogs that came out to chase my bike. It was in a really tight corner of what use to be a fun little twisty road.  Why do people let their dogs run loose to start with?
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Well Chad, maybe you don't know this, BUT there ARE a few dunderheaded fellow motorcycle riders out there who actually train their dogs to chase any motorcycle which doesn't make an ear-splitting "Po-ta-to, Po-ta-to, Po-ta-to" sound as it goes by their house!!! (...however, far be it from me to single out any one particular group of offenders here!!!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 950
Banned
|
Banned
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 950 |
Probably a harly owner that dont like them snooty trumpets dragging pegs around those sharp corners.Did the dogs have doorags on?
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Yep Mike! That's THEM alright!!!
And yep, word is many of their dogs DO sport them there doo-rags(though I think they're called doG-rags when their pets are wearin' 'em), AND I hear MANY of those folks even name their dogs after their preferred brand of motorcycle TOO.
(...how "original", huh???!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 950
Banned
|
Banned
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 950 |
Go by there later this week and whistle and call out here Fatboy! Then throw him an oily rag,the scent will throw him off cause he will think you are his master and will leave you alone.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
 There ya go, Chad! Seems Mike here has your problem solved!!! Now aren't ya glad we're around here to help find answers to these sorts of complaints???!!! (...and just think, if you didn't ride a Triumph, you'd have probably never found this website with members so helpful, huh?!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1
Second Wind
|
OP
Second Wind
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1 |
It was getting dark so I didn't see if they had rags around there necks. one ran staight infront of me the others were on the right side of me barking and running straight at me. while I was banking left. I missed the dogs but it scared me some and really angered me. I am not going to do it but I want to take my pistola and go back through there.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1
Second Wind
|
OP
Second Wind
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1 |
I am glad I found yall. Your kind of like the characters in that book through the looking glass.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,186 Likes: 55
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,186 Likes: 55 |
Both my pitbulls run loose but they stay in my back yard.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains. Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,546
Learned Hand
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,546 |
my two dogs run loose but they are contained my an electronic fence.
if life gives you lemons keep them because hey,free lemons.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,099
Loquacious
|
Loquacious
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,099 |
Hey Kenny! A friend of mine has a golden retriever that kept getting him tickets for allowing a dog to roam. So, he got one of them electric fence things. The dog was so smart he figured out that it made a warning tone before it shocked him. He would go to the perimiter until the thing started beeping, lie down, and wait for the battery to die. Or, he would put his head down, run like crazy, and take the hit. Smart Dog!
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964
Stickman Yogi
|
Stickman Yogi
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964 |
Quote:
I am glad I found yall. Your kind of like the characters in that book through the looking glass.
Ahhhh, that's so sweet!
Live to love, love to live.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,202 Likes: 11
Learned Hand
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,202 Likes: 11 |
Here, we have a huge stray dog population.
Lots of people get puppies (they are soooo cute, right), then when they grow to bo too big to stay in their tiny apartment, they are just thrown on the street somewhere far from home.
Good thing rabies is not present here, or we'd have a huge problem!
Them dogs love to sleep on the warm asphalt at night ... and they don't move when you approach (I guess they are suicidal and want to end their "dog life"!) so you can picture this one: a few black dogs, sleeping in the middle of the unlit road, at night... hummm.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,821
Bar Shake
|
Bar Shake
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,821 |
Quote:
I am glad I found yall. Your kind of like the characters in that book through the looking glass.
'Twas brillig, and the slithey toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe.
Contra todo mal, mezcal; contra todo bien, también
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,616
Check Pants
|
Check Pants
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,616 |
had a dog charge me one time...startled me but I didn't break my line....I did prep my left foot for a kick if needed. I would have hated to do that but if its me or the animal my goal is to win.
SOLD: 07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq
NEW: 19 Goldwing Tour DCT
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Well Jeff, maybe it would help if many of 'em over there were spayed or neutered, eh?!  (...and nope, I'm NOT talkin' about the dogs here!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Quote:
Quote:
I am glad I found yall. Your kind of like the characters in that book through the looking glass.
'Twas brillig, and the slithey toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe.
Hmmmm. I have absolutely NO idea what that meant there, Bill.
(...but maybe I'll go ask Alice...when she's 10 feet tall!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1
Second Wind
|
OP
Second Wind
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1 |
the only way to fix peole like that is to just shoot them and decrease the surplus population.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964
Stickman Yogi
|
Stickman Yogi
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964 |
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
I am glad I found yall. Your kind of like the characters in that book through the looking glass.
'Twas brillig, and the slithey toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe.
Hmmmm. I have absolutely NO idea what that meant there, Bill.
(...but maybe I'll go ask Alice...when she's 10 feet tall!)
Alright... who put acid in the punch bowl? 
Jabberwocky I say!
Live to love, love to live.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1
Second Wind
|
OP
Second Wind
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1 |
its been a while but I think thats from the jabberwocky
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1
Second Wind
|
OP
Second Wind
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1 |
most people are ot capable of caring for dogs and shouldn't be allowed to have them.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,186 Likes: 55
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,186 Likes: 55 |
My dogs are like family members and treated and loved as such.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains. Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 950
Banned
|
Banned
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 950 |
Quote:
most people are ot capable of caring for dogs and shouldn't be allowed to have them.
Painting with a pretty big brush there loco Most of the dog owners I know take better care of there mutts then they do there kids.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3,971
Loquacious
|
Loquacious
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3,971 |
Say what you like about dogs, but mine dog does an awesome job at keeping the generator going  The neighbor's dog, not so much 
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964
Stickman Yogi
|
Stickman Yogi
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964 |
Quote:
most people are ot capable of caring for dogs and shouldn't be allowed to have them.
Most people? Not my experience.
Live to love, love to live.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1
Second Wind
|
OP
Second Wind
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1 |
some people do a great job caring for their dogs others don't
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964
Stickman Yogi
|
Stickman Yogi
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964 |
Quote:
some people do a great job caring for their dogs others don't
Now there's an astute observation!
Live to love, love to live.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,738
Learned Hand
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,738 |
I have a cat. His name is Trumpy. 
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Love the "treadmill" post, Martin!!! 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 394
Adjunct
|
Adjunct
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 394 |
Anybody who lets their dogs roam free ought to be smacked... I have a feeling many riders (more than we know) who aren't here now to say so, have been killed by trying to avoid a dog or hitting one and going down. It drives me crazy that people get dogs and dont take care of them or take responsibility for what happens to them or because of them... I have turned around and went back to a chaser and when he was close enough he got a boot in the face! better a boot in the face than a bumper samich...I do the underground fences and have been installing and training dogs to these systems for 16 years, they are very effective if done right, good system and good training... Oh and they cant lay on the wire and let the battery drain, not anymore anyway, years ago some of the cheaper systems had a tone only zone with no stop....those days are over Anyway, people need to take care of these critters... They are mans best friend... They are doing studies now where we think they can detect cancer! I want to see what we find out in the next 1000 years about them 
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964
Stickman Yogi
|
Stickman Yogi
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964 |
Good ol' Bob Dylan thought about this very topic many, many years back... this is what he had to say.
If Dogs Run Free
If dogs run free, then why not we Across the swooping plain? My ears hear a symphony Of two mules, trains and rain The best is always yet to come That’s what they explain to me Just do your thing, you’ll be king If dogs run free
If dogs run free, why not me Across the swamp of time? My mind weaves a symphony And tapestry of rhyme Oh, winds which rush my tale to thee So it may flow and be To each his own, it’s all unknown If dogs run free
If dogs run free, then what must be Must be, and that is all True love can make a blade of grass Stand up straight and tall In harmony with the cosmic sea True love needs no company It can cure the soul, it can make it whole If dogs run free
Live to love, love to live.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 467
Adjunct
|
Adjunct
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 467 |
I got to shoot a double barrel pistol,held 410 bird shot. Does wanders to the rear end of unwanted critters.Fits in the palm of your hand. When shot they can bloody up your hand besides other things,soooo be careful when firing.-Uhm, I would not know anybody that would do such an ------.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,186 Likes: 55
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,186 Likes: 55 |
Anyone who thinks people who let dogs run free should be smacked should be smacked. I own 3 acres of mostly woods and my dogs keep to my back yard of about 3/4 or so of an acre and don't bother anyone that isn't where they don't belong. They can see people walk up the road out front and keep to the back yard. There are no fences of any kind except a privacy fence the has 2 drive through opening and ends at the edge of my woods on both sides.They don't chase wildlife that happens in the yard. So I see no reason to put them on a chain or leash. When I yell "in the house" They bolt for the back door and stand there and wait for me.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains. Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1
Second Wind
|
OP
Second Wind
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1 |
Hey cool your jets. Hes talking bout folks who allow there dogs out into the street so they can be run down by autos. If you got the room and the dogs don't go into the road or dig in the niehbors trash good. My Grandpa had a huge farm, and the puppies ran free but was not in any road danger. Nor could they damage the property of others
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1
Second Wind
|
OP
Second Wind
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1 |
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,186 Likes: 55
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,186 Likes: 55 |
My jets are cool, was just pointing out the blanket statement the illustrating that in many cases dogs can run free. I used to live on a busy highway with neighbors and my dogs still ran free.They knew not to go in the road or even near it. All my neighbors owned dogs and we all knew each other. Their dogs wear as likely to be found in my house lounging with my dogs as vise versa. Would have been better to say those who let their dogs run in the road or bother the neighbors. If I had dogs who went near the road or didn't listen then they would be restrained for their own safety.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains. Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Yep Ian, I suppose all is good, UNLESS you happen to live next door to dog owners like this family lives next door to.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boBn9R5Ye_A&feature=related(...at the 6:19 mark of this video all will be revealed) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,068 Likes: 1
Saddle Sore
|
Saddle Sore
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,068 Likes: 1 |
Well dang , why wait 6:19 when you can get it all in less than 1 second ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He82NBjJqf8 
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,738
Learned Hand
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,738 |
Even my cats dont run free. I built a cat park with tunnels and stuff so they go outside the house but are still enclosed and cant kill the native wildlife or become a nuisance on the street. 
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 394
Adjunct
|
Adjunct
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 394 |
Hey Ian, are your dogs actually alive... I dont think ive ever seen a dog that wouldnt chase a chipmunk or other furry fun critter, and at your old house didnt you have any neighbors that lived across the street, you said all the dogs in the neighborhood would visit and visa verse, that would put your dogs in the street... People get very defensive about this subject, especially the people who do let their dogs loose..i have alot of customers who said my dogs never leaves the property, but those dogs are no longer with us, and that kid must have been teasing my dog for him to run out there and bite him, or that guy had no right to shoot my dog even if he was on his property. Ive herd all the lines, i have been dealing with dogs and their owners for 25 years. Bottom line is people need to take responsibility for their actions, if your dog causes an accident its YOUR fault not the dogs, what if someone died in that accident, i wouldn't want to live with that... Maybe you can guaranty your dogs NEVER, EVER leave your property but most people cant make that statement. If i ever go down on my bike because of a dog in the road, the owner really needs to hope that i cannot get up and make it to their house right then, there's a strong possibility they'd get a beating right on their front lawn. I know me pretty well, and have seen me do things like that... It was a blanket statement, but people who let their dogs run loose more than likely will have or cause problems.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,186 Likes: 55
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,186 Likes: 55 |
Quote:
Hey Ian, are your dogs actually alive... I dont think ive ever seen a dog that wouldnt chase a chipmunk or other furry fun critter, and at your old house didnt you have any neighbors that lived across the street, you said all the dogs in the neighborhood would visit and visa verse, that would put your dogs in the street... People get very defensive about this subject, especially the people who do let their dogs loose..i have alot of customers who said my dogs never leaves the property, but those dogs are no longer with us, and that kid must have been teasing my dog for him to run out there and bite him, or that guy had no right to shoot my dog even if he was on his property. Ive herd all the lines, i have been dealing with dogs and their owners for 25 years. Bottom line is people need to take responsibility for their actions, if your dog causes an accident its YOUR fault not the dogs, what if someone died in that accident, i wouldn't want to live with that... Maybe you can guaranty your dogs NEVER, EVER leave your property but most people cant make that statement. If i ever go down on my bike because of a dog in the road, the owner really needs to hope that i cannot get up and make it to their house right then, there's a strong possibility they'd get a beating right on their front lawn. I know me pretty well, and have seen me do things like that... It was a blanket statement, but people who let their dogs run loose more than likely will have or cause problems.
Nope, woods and swamp across the street from my old house. All the houses there belonged to 1 family except the one I rented from their grandmother. There was a big tunnel under the road behind my house that lead to the swamp and woods and my dogs used to go through there and play in the woods. Junkyard and woods behind that house on the side away from the road. The tunnel was for a stream the emptied out of the swimming hole behind my house.
My dogs are very much alive but they have no interest in chasing anything alive. They know the boundries of where they are allowed to go. Done it my entire life, even my grandparents dogs ran loose. We never had 1 issue from it. My dogs are only outside when I am, why they don't chase things I don't know. I didn't train them that why but all they do is look and watch with a curious look and ears up. I have seen them watch rabbits and deer and I mean these critters were within a couple feet but my dogs didn't really care. I watch and yell when they get to the boundry of where I allow them to go and after a short time they just know and there is no need for any shock devices or anything like that. If my dogs did go near the road or beyond the edge of my yard they would no longer be loose. I take them to bluegrass festivals and they don't run off there either. Now if a giant hamberger ran across the back yard they would probably chase it. It is training and they know the sound of my voice and when I mean business. I don't hit my dogs either except a swat on the butt if they disobey, and I mean a swat not repeated blows. They also get a reward every time they go outside and behave. When they come back in they get a bone, they get one every time now. When I was training them they didn't always get that reward.
As for attacking me on my turf, not a good idea crash or no crash.First, remember the 2 pitbulls? They wouldn't like it. 2nd I'm armed.
EDIT: Actually now that I think about it all I have is woods across the street from my house here too.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains. Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1
Second Wind
|
OP
Second Wind
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1 |
some people know how to care for their doggies, most really don't. You seem like you really care for yours. I know how rewarding it can be to have a companion rather than a pet, as a dog should be. To them you are the Alpha dog you lead them and care for them as an active member of the pack. Thats why they do as you say, and why they dont chase critters. If you wanted them to they would, but you dont so they dont. You are the exception though, I see way to many dogs left to their own devises, and it gets them in trouble. I hate to say it but those folks shouldn't keep animals. I my self dont have the time to care for animals correctly so I dont keep any. I once had a bird with which I had the same relationship you have with your dogs. Hurricane rita killed him, since then no animals for me.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,186 Likes: 55
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,186 Likes: 55 |
I agree that there are those that should have pets and those who should not. I also agree that not all can be let run loose and in many cases should not for their own safety. I also agree some are a hazzard to others on or off the road. All I am saying is it is not true for all.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains. Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 394
Adjunct
|
Adjunct
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 394 |
OK Ian, Your absolutely right, you have never or will never take your eyes off your dogs for even 30 seconds, they have never ever been nor will they ever set 1 foot off of your property, that is a certainty beyond a shadow of a doubt as sure as the sky is blue... Quote:
As for attacking me on my turf, not a good idea crash or no crash.First, remember the 2 pitbulls? They wouldn't like it. 2nd I'm armed.
1st off, not everyone is afraid of pit bulls, i can deal with them easily.. and 2nd you could possibly end up with your ARM stuck up you a$$ before you could use it..especially if it were someone me on your front lawn .....If your dogs caused someone to wreck their bike, you dont think you deserve an a$$ whoopin, what would you do if you went down because some jack ****** let his dog run free?
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,186 Likes: 55
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,186 Likes: 55 |
Well maybe not but while you are taking care of them you would have a hard time doing anything about me.
I agree that if your dog causes a wreck you are responsible and deserve what you get. I mean that 2 fold, one is for causing the wreck and 2 is for endangering your dog. I do take my eyes off my dogs while we are outside now but I didn't used to until I had them trained the way they are. They mostly lay in the grass near me while I do what ever I do.
On a side note, pitbulls are not to be afraid of, most are friendly normal dogs but are also powerful and have a very powerful bite. My dogs are very friendly but I am pretty sure that wouldn't hold true if I was attacked.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains. Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 394
Adjunct
|
Adjunct
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 394 |
HAHAHAH I wouldnt even worry about the dogs....youd be 1st and really im done with the dog training and behavior lessons, i think with 25 years experience Training,(protection work) breeding and working with dogs that i might know a little about the subject. You seem to have it all figured out, and I appreciate all the knowledge you have bestowed upon me, I have had a revelation...... Thanks
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Here ya go, Chad...just in time for Thanksgiving... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIuFsUj4TewAnd you think YOU'VE got troubles there in Texas, do ya???!!! Ya better not ever ride through Easton!!! (I'm guessin' it's Easton Massachusetts, considerin' the guy in this video attempts to shoo off the turkey by yellin', "GET OUTTA HEEYAH!!!")
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Quick update here...err, I mean heeyah, folks.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KRRN3UVrdo&feature=related(poor ol' Freddy...may he rest in peace....with a side of cranberries)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,738
Learned Hand
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,738 |
 Man that bird sure is persistant. Its worse than a lizard!!!  or a pack of dogs... ....maybe not a pack of dogs. 
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 13
Complete Newb
|
Complete Newb
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 13 |
A few years back I had a dog come out on to the road between two parked cars. I hit it and came off my bike then slid along the road and only stopped when my head hit the pavement (sidewalk). However I was wearing a helmet and only came out with a few bumps and grazes (something to think about to those of you who don't have compulsory helmet laws and choose not to wear one! I killed the dog (it died in my arms)
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 513
Adjunct
|
Adjunct
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 513 |
If the dogs chase bikes they'll chase cars and trucks. Just go back in your cage and nail one. The others will either learn to stay out of the way or not. If not, go back a get another one and another till the problem is eliminated. I live in a rural area and see dogs all the time. Most chase cars but stay in their yard while doing so but don't get into the road. Those that get into the road don't usually live past the first birthday around here. I've nearly wrecked before because some people would rather cause a wreck than run over an animal that darts into the road. Obviously, I don't want to hit any larger animals on my bike (having already nearly died because of a deer) but most dogs around here who wander throughout the neighborhood make an effort to stay out of the way of traffic. The chasers stay in the boundary of their yards. But thats rural life. I guess them city dogs approach life differently than do country dogs. Please be careful everyone. It hurts worse and longer than it used to. 
Its more fun to be ridin'! I'm still ridin
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,464 Likes: 1
Loquacious
|
Loquacious
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,464 Likes: 1 |
I've been on both sides of this issue. Back in HS, I was attacked by a dog - from above! I was on the lower level of a road under construction and the dog was on the top level and jumped, latched onto my leg and wouldn't let go. Never saw that one coming! I've also had my dog(s) hit by cars in front of my house. Dogs that I thought never went into the road. My Cairn decided to hit the streets after I went to work (night shift). I never knew that he climbed the fence to get out. Later, I found out that he did it regularly. My Keeshond was with me in the front yard and a girl walked by. She looked very much like my wife, who had just gone inside to get some tea. The girl bent down and called to the dog - who thinking it was my wife - ran to her. Then the dumb B crossed to the other side of the street and the dog followed her - right in front of a VW van. Lastly, our blind neighbor left our gate open and our Black Lab walked right out and was hit by a Lexus. Fortunately, her collar caught on the bumper and she wasn't run over. She did lose a tooth and punctured a lung. This was over A 25+ year period and fortunately all 3 dogs survived (with some serious medical bills) and went on to lead long, healthy lives. But I learned that, no matter how well trained, I can never trust a dog to always stay in his yard. A shame really, but a reality nonetheless. Now CATS are a different story. They're much smarter... 
Last edited by Hermit; 10/26/2011 7:07 PM.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,068 Likes: 1
Saddle Sore
|
Saddle Sore
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,068 Likes: 1 |
Quote:
Now CATS are a different story. They're much smarter...
Well dog my cats said Babba Fats *
At least sometimes dogs will stop and make a good faith attempt to yield to cars , cats will just rip on across a road much like a ..........skwerl . 
* an obscure poem . Google it .
P.S. - I have never seen an asterisk used on this site !
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964
Stickman Yogi
|
Stickman Yogi
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964 |
Wade was talking poetry, which (in the context of a 'dog' thread) reminded me of a favourite line from Bob Dylan... "If dogs run free, why not me Across the swamp of time?" We now return to our regularly scheduled programming here at ba.com! 
Live to love, love to live.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,068 Likes: 1
Saddle Sore
|
Saddle Sore
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,068 Likes: 1 |
Are "loose dogs" so named due to a lapse of moral convictions , or are they simply "free range" animals ?
I need to know these things to satiate the thirst of knowledge .
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,419
Oil Expert
|
Oil Expert
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,419 |
Quote:
* an obscure poem . Google it .
P.S. - I have never seen an asterisk used on this site !
Wade you are the intrepid forerunner of asterisk * popularity.
What other characters are rarely if ever seen here? Time and ~ (tilde) wait for no man. Sorry for the OT.
Cheers, Richard ~~~~~~~~~~~~ 09 America, Staintune Pipes, K&N, Breathe, Hagon Nitros, AI & O2 removed, tune 20184 (modified), MTX-L a/f gauge
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Quote:
* an obscure poem . Google it .
P.S. - I have never seen an asterisk used on this site !
That's 'cause most of us around here have securely packed all of our asterisks away in bubble wrap, Wade!
(...so, what do you use YOUR bubble warp for, ol' buddy???)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,068 Likes: 1
Saddle Sore
|
Saddle Sore
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,068 Likes: 1 |
Quote:
(...so, what do you use YOUR bubble warp for, ol' buddy???)
New thread : Loose Asterisks
"bubble WARP" ? I warp up LOOSE DOGS in the stuff so's they be a little mo' padded as they is tossed over the railing ! 
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964
Stickman Yogi
|
Stickman Yogi
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964 |
Quote:
We now return to our regularly scheduled programming here at ba.com!
Well then again, maybe not.
Live to love, love to live.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Quote:
Quote:
(...so, what do you use YOUR bubble warp for, ol' buddy???)
New thread : Loose Asterisks
"bubble WARP" ? I warp up LOOSE DOGS in the stuff so's they be a little mo' padded as they is tossed over the railing !
Do they travel at wrap...err...WARP speed, or is it just a gentle toss you give 'em?
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Quote:
Quote:
We now return to our regularly scheduled programming here at ba.com!
Well then again, maybe not.

Don't forget who's in this thread now, Keith!
(...though I DO hope to warp...err..WRAP it up real soon here!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964
Stickman Yogi
|
Stickman Yogi
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964 |
Gentle toss or warp speed, for the dog, it's a WRAP!
Live to love, love to live.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Did you say "Dog Rap", Keith? Okay then! You asked for it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He82NBjJqf8(...and with THIS we come full-circle in this thread...see how I led you dogs here back home again?!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964
Stickman Yogi
|
Stickman Yogi
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964 |
Oh my Dog, that is so passé. Come on Dwight, get with the program, if ya want to wrap it up ya gotta keep up with the times. That friggin' mainstream TV of yours has set you back a few paces! Okay... just check this out and you'll know what I mean! Dogs is evolving, man. I betcha Ian knows what I mean! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cms2xdRD4ic
Live to love, love to live.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 594
Adjunct
|
Adjunct
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 594 |
Quote:
Are "loose dogs" so named due to a lapse of moral convictions ,
Tig's favorite kind... 
SFC, US Army (Ret)
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,590
Check Pants
|
Check Pants
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,590 |
Quote:
I have a feeling many riders (more than we know) who aren't here now to say so, have been killed by trying to avoid a dog or hitting one and going down.
Does anyone here remember the member "Bikerthug", attended the Idaho rally organized by Soren. Mark had a very sweet looking black and yellow speedmaster. One of the nicest, IMO cruisers on ba.com. If my memory's correct, he crashed 7-8 years ago in Washington, totalling the bike whilst swerving to miss a dog. I believe a few folks here have remnants of that fine machine as he parted it out.
He came through in one piece, but must have struck his head, as he replaced it with a BMW, completing the conversion to "BeemerThug". But he lives on in the facebook virtual world.
jh
"It's not what I say that's important, it's what you hear" Red Auerbach
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,629 Likes: 7
Monkey Butt
|
Monkey Butt
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,629 Likes: 7 |
Quote:
Hey Kenny! A friend of mine has a golden retriever that kept getting him tickets for allowing a dog to roam. So, he got one of them electric fence things. The dog was so smart he figured out that it made a warning tone before it shocked him. He would go to the perimiter until the thing started beeping, lie down, and wait for the battery to die. Or, he would put his head down, run like crazy, and take the hit. Smart Dog!
I met a guy who had a German Shorthair that would run full speed toward the edge. It would actually stun him but he would wind up on the outside of the "fence." When he was ready to come home he would stand outside and bark until they turned off the juice and let him in. I'm guessing there were lots of half German Shorthair pups around there.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,124 Likes: 13
Should be Riding
|
Should be Riding
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,124 Likes: 13 |
Quote:
I met a guy who had a German Shorthair that would run full speed toward the edge. It would actually stun him but he would wind up on the outside of the "fence." When he was ready to come home he would stand outside and bark until they turned off the juice and let him in. I'm guessing there were lots of half German Shorthair pups around there.

Blowing gravel off rural roads
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1
Second Wind
|
OP
Second Wind
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,393 Likes: 1 |
I think I have finally trained the ones I was having trouble with. By stopping and chasing them back into their yard with my belt. They seem to be no longer interested when I come by on my bike anymore.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 155
Adjunct
|
Adjunct
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 155 |
Quote:
had a dog charge me one time...startled me but I didn't break my line....I did prep my left foot for a kick if needed. I would have hated to do that but if its me or the animal my goal is to win.
had a dog that would do that on my running route years ago, and once I did just what you prepared for - gave it a mighty kick in the ribs with my left foot, but I failed to think ahead about the inertia of a big dog and the forward momentum of a small runner at full stride and paid for it with road rash on both knees, elbows, and a shoulder as I rolled down the tarmac. Don't know what would happen on my bike, but I'd think twice about trying it again. The only good thing was that the dog never came at me again after that.
Phil in Northwest Arkansas
04 America, Black, Corbin seat, TORs, no AI, 34K
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 16
Complete Newb
|
Complete Newb
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 16 |
I had an interesting dog story not too long ago. My wife and I were riding and I looked over and saw a large Shepherd and a boxer running at full steam to cut me off on a rural road. The Shepherd must have been watching me instead of where he was going as he ran headfirst into a gas meter wide assed open. Upon hearing the loud yelp the boxer turned and went the other way. As soon as the Shepherd got up he too went the other way as fast as possible. I suppose they thought I did something to the Shepherd. As the long road ended at a state park I had to go by on the way out but they never left the driveway. Alls well that ends well.
A Harley Heritage, a Triumph America, a good Irish Whiskey and cigar. As close to Heaven on earth as I can get.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 10,715 Likes: 4
Should be Riding
|
Should be Riding
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 10,715 Likes: 4 |
I like dogs but that's funny as hell right there! 
Always remember to be yourself. Unless you suck. Then pretend to be someone else.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,124 Likes: 13
Should be Riding
|
Should be Riding
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,124 Likes: 13 |
All this discussion and no practical methods of dog avoidance? Seems to me (and from experience) that one needs to take away the two advantages of dogs:Speed and vector. Get them to trot or at least slow down. That means you have to slow down. When the dog gets amidships, stretch the throttle cables! For a pack of dogs, hum, might have to reconsider that approach. For dogs that are sitting in the middle of the road, slowing down and gunning it still works. For those canines on the road in a blind curve, all bets are off. What really sucks is after you successfully avoid a couple of dogs, you find out the street you are on is a dead end. 
Blowing gravel off rural roads
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,669
Learned Hand
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,669 |
Just drag a stray cat bout 20 yards behind you and they'll leave you and your bike alone. 
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,419
Oil Expert
|
Oil Expert
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,419 |
 Who'da thunk they could be useful.
Cheers, Richard ~~~~~~~~~~~~ 09 America, Staintune Pipes, K&N, Breathe, Hagon Nitros, AI & O2 removed, tune 20184 (modified), MTX-L a/f gauge
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,186 Likes: 55
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,186 Likes: 55 |
Reminds me of National; Lampoons Vacation.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains. Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 348
Adjunct
|
Adjunct
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 348 |
Quote:
All this discussion and no practical methods of dog avoidance? Seems to me (and from experience) that one needs to take away the two advantages of dogs:Speed and vector. Get them to trot or at least slow down. That means you have to slow down. When the dog gets amidships, stretch the throttle cables!
This is the best advice that has been given in my opinion. If this doesn't work then incorporate the heel of your boot into this equation along with a 3,000 to 5,000 rpm increase in a span of 2 - 4 seconds. The tough-guy bark will turn into a crying home to momma whine!
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,212
Oil Expert
|
Oil Expert
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,212 |
i just head into them as soon as they figure out that you are crazier then they are they turn around :-)
2007 Speedmaster and miss it!
2013 T-Bird Storm and Luvin it!
Catching a yellow jacket in your shirt at 70 mph can double your vocabulary
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964
Stickman Yogi
|
Stickman Yogi
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,964 |
Dogs? Try this... the other day a friend while riding was confronted by a friggin' elk all bent out of shape because of, don't you know it... rutting season. Turns out the animal tried to outrun and therefore cut off his rival... that being my friend + wife on a Yamaha Venture. The wife part of the equation said she could have reached out and touched said elk. Now an elk is a BIG animal. That would have been scary, riding alone beside an animal twice the size of person and machine, dog gone it!!
Live to love, love to live.
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,212
Oil Expert
|
Oil Expert
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,212 |
Quote:
Dogs? Try this... the other day a friend while riding was confronted by a friggin' elk all bent out of shape because of, don't you know it... rutting season. Turns out the animal tried to outrun and therefore cut off his rival... that being my friend + wife on a Yamaha Venture. The wife part of the equation said she could have reached out and touched said elk. Now an elk is a BIG animal. That would have been scary, riding alone beside an animal twice the size of person and machine, dog gone it!!
Crap, that would be scary!
2007 Speedmaster and miss it!
2013 T-Bird Storm and Luvin it!
Catching a yellow jacket in your shirt at 70 mph can double your vocabulary
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,883
Learned Hand
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,883 |
Of course Keith, the first time I came to your place I stopped and gave a bear the right of way. I just stayed as far as I could away. Ready to hit the throttle if he changed direction.  Those Canadians ride dangerously.
~Brent
-----
"Nothing you can be is more terrible than what I am." ~ 2007 Black Speedmaster!!
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,124 Likes: 13
Should be Riding
|
Should be Riding
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,124 Likes: 13 |
Have to say this since no one else has... ...Who Let The Dogs Out! ruff, ruff ruff.  omg I crack myself up. LOL
Blowing gravel off rural roads
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Well Jim, I hate to tell ya this here, but Wade posted the YouTube video of that song in this thread just about a year ago now. (...ya see, when he isn't messin' with all that bubblewrap, he's pretty much on the ball...well, mostly anyway) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,124 Likes: 13
Should be Riding
|
Should be Riding
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,124 Likes: 13 |
Pretty much on the ball eh? And I happen to be the dog chasing the ball no? lol
Blowing gravel off rural roads
|
|
|
 Re: loose dogs
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 121
Adjunct
|
Adjunct
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 121 |
Out at the end of a dead-end road where we have very few folks venture, my boxer runs loose. However, should she even consider chasing a bike, car, cyclist, pedestrian, et al, she KNOWS that the beatings will soon commence. So, though she occassionally forgets and gets that "look," one sharp word from me or the spouse-unit is all it takes. Raising/owning dogs is kinda like kids, but sadly, beating kids is no longer allowed, ergo, we have dogs now behaving better than most kids.
|
|
|
|
|