Thanks for the help Dale. I kind of thought those 2 bolts on the hanging bracket might be the answer. I know it will be to loud without the baffles but I'm the kind of guy that just needs to hear it one time. I love the sound of the pipes but I had the TOR's on for about 2 years and they were louder just not a deep enough sound. I also think that because the TOR's were the short ones, and I got the long TB pipes, it just takes a little getting use to the difference.

Thanks again for the help. Some of your earlier post help me make the decision to buy the TB pipes.

Van