Thanks Brent. I know that most people on this forum know where I am coming from.

I don't remember mentioning an elusive secret but I do remember saying that if I need to explain it that you would'nt understand and I guess I was right about that.

Now John why do you say I need to lighten up? I am not upset at anyone here nor do I want an argument but am merely trying to explain what was asked of me. Besides I just got back from a nice little ride on my kawasaki in the lovely sunshine so alls good over here.