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I don't think there is any Spumoni or Neapolitan bike.
Most are just chocolate or vanilla, there are some chocolate/vanilla swirls, but if you want the pistachio or strawberry you have to get it separately.
Adding some dulce de leche and/or hot fudge would be an upgrade.

Now I'm hungry
(See what you did Ron, talking flavors).

Since no bike does it all, getting one that better suits your needs may well be an upgrade. But just increasing bowl/scoop size isn't in itself an upgrade unless the individual perceives it as such.

In other words: It's all subjective

And if it's someone else's opinion of your sundae? Who gives a rat's @ss?

I agree completely!

TWO scoops of pistachio please

****** you are fast!
I have added an edit to my post.

A little Patrón does speed the wit a bit

I 100% TOTALLY agree with you Mr.Soren

I think I agree with most of you here on this. (And that really rubs me the wrong way... )

Dear Mr Bloor
Please can I just have 1600cc bike that looks like my TBA?
and while we're about it,please do something about the ugly sprocket cover and put a timing cover on it that looks like a proper triumph cover-every time I see itI want totwist it round a bit till it's upright.
Other than that,dont mess with it.

Thanks
Al

Well the way I look at it is if I have to spend at least $4,000 to $5,000 more than what I spent on my America then it had better be an upgrade.

Now saying that, I do not consider my Tiger an upgrade. It's a totally different bike, which is why I got it. Yes it cost a lot more than my America, but the only common thing between the two bikes is the manufacturer and the fact they both have two wheels. Each bike does what it was intended to do extremely well.

Tom

I own BOTH bikes. A 2004 America that looks ABSOLUTELY nothing like stock. I made an old school bobber out of it, and LOVE it like no other. Its a wicked lookin' street sweeper that gets looks everywhere I go (like I care). I fixed it for MY tastes. I bought the Thunderbird so my girl and I could cruise hundreds of miles quite comfortably. We could do this on my America, but choose not to. I don't consider the Thunderbird an upgrade, merely a different animal for a different purpose (BTW, it draws a huge amount of attention too--like I care AGAIN). When I want to wake up the neighborhood and shred some curves, I jump on the bobber. When she and I wanna bust out 300 miles in a day and save our eardrums, we break out the "old man bike". Both are beautiful, both are Triumphs, so who cares? Apparently those who give a crap what other people think...one day I'm also gonna own a Speed Triple, and she's gonna have a red Thruxton. And SOME day the '73 Bonnie on that Ironhead frame sleeping quietly in my garage will be awakened and there's gonna be a Triumph party in Birdtown, North Carolina. Everybody's invited.

I like the way you think Lee.

when I put the spec sheets side by side it sure looks like a Upgrade to me..


2010 Motorcycles

Thunderbird

- Go on a legend reborn
Print Specifications

Engine
TypeLiquid-cooled, DOHC, Parallel-twin, 270 degree firing intervalCapacity1597cc / 1700 Big Bore Edition - 1700ccBore/Stroke103.8 x 94.3mmCompression Ratio9.7:1Fuel SystemMultipoint sequential electronic fuel injection, progressive linkage on throttleTransmission
Final DriveToothed beltClutchWet, multi-plateGearbox6-speed constant mesh, helical type 2nd - 6thCycle Parts
FrameTubular steel, twin spineSwingarmTwin-sided, steelFront WheelCast aluminum alloy 5-spoke 19 x 3.5 inRear WheelCast aluminum alloy 5-spoke 17 x 6 inFront Tyre120 / 70 R19Rear Tyre200 / 50 R17Front SuspensionShowa 47mm forks. 120mm travelRear SuspensionShowa chromed spring twin shocks with 5 position adjustable preload. 95mm rear wheel travelFront BrakesTwin 310mm floating discs. Nissin 4-piston fixed calipersRear BrakesSingle 310mm fixed disc. Brembo 2-piston floating caliper
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Dimensions
Length92.1 inWidth (Handlebars)34.6 inHeight44.1 inSeat Height27.5 inWheelbase63.5 inRake/Trail32 degree / 151mmWet weight746 lbsFuel Tank Capacity5.8 US galsPerformance (measured at crankshaft to 95/1/EC)
Maximun Power EC85bhp @ 4,850rpmMaximum Torque EC108ft.lbs @ 2,750rpmColours
Jet Black, Pacific Blue/Fusion White, Aluminum Silver/Jet Black

Special Edition: Cardinal Red

1700 Big Bore Edition: Phantom Haze Red
Price
Single Color $12,499 / Two-tone Color $12,799
ABS Single Color $13,299 / ABS Two-tone Color $13,599
Special Edition: $14,999
1700 Big Bore Edition: $14,799
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2010 Motorcycles

Speedmaster

- A stripped-down middleweight hot rod.
Print Specifications

Engine
TypeAir-cooled, DOHC, parallel-twin, 270 degree firing intervalCapacity865ccBore/Stroke90 x 68 mmCompression Ratio9.2:1Fuel SystemMultipoint sequential electonic fuel injection with SAITransmission
Final DriveX ring chainClutchWet, multi-plateGearbox5-speedCycle Parts
FrameTubular steel cradleSwingarmTwin-sided, tubular steelFront WheelCast aluminum alloy, 5-spoke 18 x 2.5inRear WheelCast aluminum alloy, 5-spoke 15 x 3.5inFront Tyre110/80 R18Rear Tyre170/80 B15Front SuspensionKayaba 41mm forks with polished stainless steel shrouds and polished lowers, 130mm travelRear SuspensionKayaba chromed spring twin shocks with adjustable preload, 96mm rear wheel travelFront BrakesTwin 310mm discs, Nissin 2 piston floating calipersRear BrakesSingle 285mm disc, Nissin 2-piston floating caliper
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Dimensions
Length95.2 inWidth (Handlebars)32.7 inHeight45.6 inSeat Height28.3 inWheelbase65.1 inRake/Trail33.3 degree / 153mmWet weight550 lbsFuel Tank Capacity5.1 US galsPerformance (masured at cankshaft to 95/1/EC)
Maximum Power EC60bhp @ 6,800 rpmMaximum Torque EC53 ft.lbs @ 3,300 rpmColours
Phantom Black, Phantom Black/New England White
Price
$7,999 Single Color/ $8,199 Two-tone Color
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and before some people get there shorts in a bunch.. I am not saying there is anything wrong with the Ameica or the speedy..they are great bikes and are what they are ...and if you noticed I just used the word Upgrade..not Graduate because that word means to me .... like you would need more skill to ride the the T-bird Not true....



but there are better components put on the T-bird..
so to me that means Upgrade..

Ed

If I'm going to ride a bike that looks like a$$, even if it looks like an America that's been hit with an ugly stick and had extra chrome tacked on, I'll get a Rocket.

<running and ducking>

(and the Rocket III Roadster is cheaper than a big bore Tbird with ABS)

wow, how did I miss this thread for so long?

I know, because for the last 3 days I have been out riding! 2 of those days putting approx 500 miles on the speedmaster (much of it in the twisties at higher than posted speeds) and yesterday a nice 300 mile day with the wife on my 1600 thunderbird (also in the twisties) and in much greater comfort than the small cruiser could bring to the party.

both are great bikes, but way different animals. If one was better than the other I wouldn't have to ride them both.

Triumph makes a bike that looks like @$$???? What year was that? 3 thousand when?

Might I humbly suggest that'like 'beauty' 'upgrade'lies in the eye of the beholder and is therefor not amenable to rational analysis and definition?

Al

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Actually I am considering an upgrade. Hey Eddy, what kind of deal can you make on Progressive springs and shocks?

I just hit 52,000 miles today after 6 years. While I see the advantages of other bikes in some areas, I would be hard pressed to name an overall better bike for me.

As for the orange and black bikes, there must be a reason that everytime I ride with my brother who has a fully loaded ElectraGlide he always wants to spend the day on my bike.

Butt ugly. Hideous, in fact. Hiding behind all that chrome and shiny paint.

Ummm...yeah, I suppose so, T-Man. IF, that is, your point is that the '50s era Thunderbirds(a la Brando's bike in "The Wild One") were styled by Mr. Turner to look slightly more, say, "Deco Styled", and in order to appeal more to the American market.

(...is THAT what ya mean?)

I am unable to know if the styling was intentional but it certainly was a popular alternative to Harleys of the day (including Mr Brando's choice of steed ).

Given Harley's model range of today, I doubt it will make any significant dent, but it is/will certainly be looked upon as a respectable alternative.

Of course, the "Lifestyle" ... a most significant contributing factor.

Dear Sirs
Please can you send me my free parrot.....oh and the eyepatch wont be necessary- having ridden Harleys for many a year before my conversion, I clearly no longer need a patch for the temporary blind spot this entailed

Al

My original intent for this thread was not to bash the T-Bird. I wanted to simply say that I am tired of people saying that they are trading-up to, graduating to or upgrading to the T-Bird, like our bikes are some little training bike. No, I dont care for the new T-Bird, but a lot of people do, that is good for Triumph, but not for me. If someone does go from a Speedy or America to a Thundrbird, it a step side-ways (with a bigger motor) not up. It is something completely different.