I'm hearin yah Soren. I hate that too. The T-bird just looks like a jap bike to me and each to their own but it dosn't have the class of Americas and Speedmasters. I also like the Bonnevilles and Thruxtons cause they are in the cool group for me. If I wanted a fast bike I would probally go a Rocket3 anyway, but it wouldn't be an upgrade, it would just be different.