and wonder about the sanity of people.
Some folks here know that I have been trying to sell my 2009 Speedmaster for a while. Well, in the last few days I have been approached by a guy over in St Louis who expressed some interest in the bike. I'm going to post the e-mail trail unedited so you all can provide a completely informed and honest critique of the exchange -

Mon, August 9, 2010 8:14:42 PMRe: Triumph
From: Michael Seay <shidapi@att.net>Add to Contacts
To: Gene Speed <chrlkres@yahoo.com>


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Gene,

WOW - That's some tirade. LOL. I haven't read anything like that for quite some time. Relax, or you're gonna pop vein.

Have a great evening.

Mike






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From: Gene Speed <chrlkres@yahoo.com>
To: Michael Seay <shidapi@att.net>
Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 2:13:05 PM
Subject: Re: Triumph


You got that right you smart ****** panty wipe. I said was just my advice and it's correct because you are a stupid ****** worried about fake 20's and going to get burned over thinking you have a better idea...

You top that off by thinking you have some special treat to offer for sale as if buyers should bow down to your dumb ******. The truth is you just blew a sale and that makes you? A moron! Who would knowing buy a bike from a moron?

That's right so don't pride your stupid self...... what a freakin jerk AND A TOTAL ******!




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From: Michael Seay <shidapi@att.net>
To: Gene Speed <chrlkres@yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 1:59:03 PM
Subject: Re: Triumph


Gene,

I merely repeated what was in the original ad. I did NOT ask for a lecture. I'm sure there is a bike out there with your name on it, but it isn't in my garage.

Have a Nice Day.

Mike




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From: Gene Speed <chrlkres@yahoo.com>
To: Michael Seay <shidapi@att.net>
Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 11:54:52 AM
Subject: Re: Triumph


I'm interested and I read your ad, I have $5000 cash and a marker pen if you'd like or get one? - I wouldn't bring twenties and I'd bring 100's. That's my offer plus it's based on not being able to get there until midweek. If you want to lose $5000 over a $200 difference then?

BTW,

You better re-think Postal Money Orders - they are more easily counterfeit then anything, in fact eBay eliminated them as being consideration for payments. Even clerks at the Post Office can't spot them.

Cashier Checks? You do realize that most banks that issue these allow the purchaser to "stop payment" don't you? That's a whole other matter. Taking a "Cashier Check" from a known and established business is one thing but from an individual and across state lines possibly? Stop payment then becomes a civil matter, the buyer can say you ripped them off and then it's a "he said they said" civil disagreement.

Taking a pen and swiping bills is far easier then waiting for a check or money order to pass through your bank with flying colors or having someone stop payment and watching your balance blink to -$5000.

Bills might be circulating but I guarantee you what is always present is "paper hangers" . Call your local police and just ask them, I'll lay odds they would tell you take a pen to the bills over your preference and possibly suggest you take the BUYERS info directly from their matched ID.

Cash and passing fake bills involves the Secret Service so if there is a circulation going around? I'll bet you the Secret Service is highly active on the case and ready to spring. That's who chases counterfeiters down. Otherwise you would be limited to local Law Enforcement and the fact they are over-loaded and over-whelmed with cases.

So someone would have to get 6 postal money orders 5 x $1000 and 1x $200
or

Cashier's Check that could be fake or worse have a "stop payment" placed on it

If someone wants to rip you off? They will try it and sadly get away with it for at least a while

You aren't selling a Garage Sale item you are selling a vehicle - be smart is all I'm saying


Just my word of advice

And just for your info? You have my name - my address and phone is in the White Pages for St. Louis and has been for 19 years at this location. No phony anything here and it would make me pretty stupid to contact you, offer you an amount, and then pass you fake bills wouldn't you think? A 1st grader could track me down. So figure we all know crooks are out there but you don't have to insult everyone because of them do you?


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From: Michael Seay <shidapi@att.net>
To: Gene Speed <chrlkres@yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 10:39:58 AM
Subject: Re: Triumph


Gene, the price on the Speedmaster is $5200 FIRM, and will need a Cashier's Check or Money Order. As I mentioned in the ad, there's too much Counterfeit bills circulating right now (I got a few 'bad' 20s in a recent Garage Sale....).

If you are still interested, please let me know.

Mike






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From: Gene Speed <chrlkres@yahoo.com>
To: sale-mqjcr-1888207685@craigslist.org
Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 10:29:21 AM
Subject: Triumph

** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html

I have 5000 cash but can't get over your way until Wednesday or Thursday, I'm in
St. Louis county near the airport area 314-423-7533 Gene


If you can wait a few days I'll take it, contingent of course on "as advertised"
.


Yes very serious - my ad is the one looking for a Triumph Bonneville,
Speedmaster even better! Check out my last name?





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SO - please provide your thoughts on this exchange. Was I out of line? Am I being a Panty-waist for not discounting more on a bike that is Already discounted by over $1500?

Was I too harsh?

Seriously, If I was in error, I'd like to know. I've always valued the opinions of the members here.