I agree with all. Where I live, it seems like every jerk-off and his brother has a Harley. I think they buy them because they think it makes them seem cool, or tough. Wrong on both counts. I rode in a benefit ride last fall with about 1200 bikes (99% Harley). As I was leaving, I rode by 2 guys sitting on a fence next to their Hogs. One of them poked the other and said "Wow, look at that Triumph!". That's what it's all about. Charlie