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I wonder, if you ask a Maryland state trooper to turn off their dash cams, will they?
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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It's suprising that he put so much thought into being stupid. He knew he was going out to ride like a jack hole in traffic, that's why he strapped on the helmet cam so he could show his buddies how much of an idiot he is. Throw the book at him. Premeditated dumbassery should be prosecutable.
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The law is being completely ridiculous. If you support the fact that that dude should go to jail for 5 years because he video taped and posted a cop...IN PLAIN CLOTHES, IN A CIVILIAN VEHICLE...doing the wrong thing, then you must be against your right to the first ammendment.
First, that cop should have called an ON DUTY police officer to take care of business.
If I saw a dude step out of a plain ole car, with plain ole clothes, with a GUN pulled...I don't know but that ain't cool. You can't trust a stranger in public.
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yeah, I woulda haul assed outta there if a dude with a gun jumped out in front of me
should make for an interesting case here
the rider is still a douchebag for doing that crap on the public roads
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Riding outside the law seems to me to demand that you are treated as an outlaw. So what's the problem? Catch a fire and you gonna get burned.
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The law is being completely ridiculous. If you support the fact that that dude should go to jail for 5 years because he video taped and posted a cop...IN PLAIN CLOTHES, IN A CIVILIAN VEHICLE...doing the wrong thing, then you must be against your right to the first ammendment.
First, that cop should have called an ON DUTY police officer to take care of business.
If I saw a dude step out of a plain ole car, with plain ole clothes, with a GUN pulled...I don't know but that ain't cool. You can't trust a stranger in public.
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yeah, I woulda haul assed outta there if a dude with a gun jumped out in front of me
should make for an interesting case here
the rider is still a douchebag for doing that crap on the public roads
As in a lot of these cases there is a little editing being done to make the story better. In the full video there is a State police car behind the bike with lights going. The plain clothes trooper also has his badge clearly showing on his belt and verbally identifies himself as a trooper. Your assuming the Trooper was off duty and thats a civilian vehicle. I don't think thats the case. I don't believe that the gun drawn was a smart move but I think the troopers were reluctant to let the bike take off again after they have just pursued him at 100+ mph and while the bike was doing wheelies.
What would have happened if the biker was killed after the Trooper was unable to stop him?
The whole video thing is the rider trying to be a cooldouch and its likely to now bite him in the ******.
Maryland is a 2 person wire tap consent state, he didn't have the Troopers permission to tape him (even though its on a public street)so its illegal.
I also wonder(taking the 2 person consent thing in to consideration) how dash cams work in that state.
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Good to hear the whole story bill. I watched the video above but it didn't state all the facts you stated.
That being the case...the biker WAS being a douche and should have complied. Also, I did not notice the badge on the belt but, as you said, he should not have pulled a gun. That's just tough guy craap to me unless it's really needed.
I too wonder how the dash cam thing works???...probably in favor of the cops and not the people.
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What would have happened if the biker was killed after the Trooper was unable to stop him?
There'd be another nominee for the Darwin award
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the rider was riding like a moron no doubt.But anyone should have the right to videotape the same way the cops do.They would laugh at you if you told them to turn there dash cam off and I sure as he77 wouldnt be goin to jail for any amount of time if I taped some joe blow without there consent.The laws are stacked in the favor of the lawmen in most every case.
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I carry and there is a pretty good chance I would have shot the cop before I knew he was one. The clown on the bike should get charged with the traffic violations and nothing else.
If there was a squad car and and the off duty guy had his badge out that changes things but the clown on the bike should still only get the traffic violations.
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I don't believe 2 party consent is supposed to apply to a public servant. The officer is protected if he is off duty, but if he's off duty (State Police officers are considered on duty 24/7 for emergency purposes in most states)then he has no right to pull a fire arm on a citezen for a civil infraction. Can't be both now can he. However, any connection between that insane sounding prosecutor and true justice appears to be coincidential at best.
That biker is a dope!
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Trying to apply a wiretap law to a public place. Interesting. From Reporters Commitee for Freedom of the Press: Quote:
State courts have interpreted the laws to protect communications only when the parties have a reasonable expectation of privacy, and thus, where a person in a private apartment was speaking so loudly that residents of an adjoining apartment could hear without any sound enhancing device, recording without the speaker’s consent did not violate the wiretapping law. Malpas v. Maryland, 695 A.2d 588 (Md. Ct. Spec. App. 1997);
I think the Da is going to have a hard time selling that one to a judge, and I imagine the sharks, I mean attorneys, are beating down that guys door wanting to sue - let's see, a guy in KS was recently awarded $4G because the cops arrested him for disorderly conducted for flipping them off, so this ought to be worth....
The guy (and the one in my example - did I mention it was in front of his own kids?) is a first-class [fill in the blank with the derogatory term of your choice], but abuse of power is still abuse of power.
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As in a lot of these cases there is a little editing being done to make the story better. In the full video there is a State police car behind the bike with lights going. The plain clothes trooper also has his badge clearly showing on his belt and verbally identifies himself as a trooper. Your assuming the Trooper was off duty and thats a civilian vehicle. I don't think thats the case. I don't believe that the gun drawn was a smart move but I think the troopers were reluctant to let the bike take off again after they have just pursued him at 100+ mph and while the bike was doing wheelies.
What would have happened if the biker was killed after the Trooper was unable to stop him?
The whole video thing is the rider trying to be a cooldouch and its likely to now bite him in the ******.
Maryland is a 2 person wire tap consent state, he didn't have the Troopers permission to tape him (even though its on a public street)so its illegal.
I also wonder(taking the 2 person consent thing in to consideration) how dash cams work in that state.
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Seems after he posted the video on youtube 6 cops showed up and searched his house, arrested him and put him in jail for 26 hours. The strange thing is that there was no judge's signature on the warrant and when he did get to see a judge the judge said there was no reason for him to be arrested because Maryland's wiretap laws are only applicable when someone has an expectation of privacy.
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