Yeah, Group rides detract from the moment. Except the BA.com rides. Where else you gonna be able to see your ride in motion? The stagger formation is cool, but that's all it is. I like a lot of room. More like a 5 second rule. Staggered formations are no fun when you get passed by the rider behind you and he/she dosen't even realize what they just did! Gotta stay on top of not only the cages but the other riders as well during a group ride. The Toy runs are mayhem. Great causes but running at idle speed for three hours is hard to handle. Group riding has its place.
