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what was the first year of the...fork reflectors?
#385507 04/16/2010 6:39 PM
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I had "fork reflectors"...or i should say pieces,of them from the wreck... .And i don't see any on any of the, different pics i bring up from 2002-2007 they weren't an option were they. any quik help thank you


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They are stock, the first thing I pulled off when I brought my bike home. They are stuck on with double-face tape.

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Most people remove the ugly DOT required pieces of plastic.
I still have mine if you want them.


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Fork reflectors will also F your pictures up. Especially when you use a flash. All you get is reflector.

Do yourself a favor and leave em' off...


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put them on so we can tell you to take them off


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And the second thing to take off is the dummy warning labels stuck all over the bike. Things like " never stick your hand in the spokes while moving"


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And the second thing to take off is the dummy warning labels stuck all over the bike. Things like " never stick your hand in the spokes while moving"




....."so I stuck them things all over my car....and one on my wife's forehead"

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Well i bought the darn reflectors for nothing , by the replys i'm getting I should jus send them back.I like the answer about sticking one on my wifes forehead.thats sounds like something i would say .back to the years...any help on this...i gottem i'm gonna use em.please fellas help me here??


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"FORK reflectors"???!!!

Okay Bob ol' boy....now I think you're just puttin' us all on, aren't ya???

I know how it is. Ya get a reputation, and so ya start wantin' to have some fun with it. Heck, I do THAT all the time around here, as you've probably noticed.

(come on...tell me I'm right here)


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I actually used mine. I stuck the orange ones on the backside of my saddle bags. The red ones off the rear fender are still in a sack somewhere.

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One source claims 1969 may have been the first year that the US DOT required said reflectors.

I'm guessing here, but as the bikes are British made for the "world market", perhaps the reflectors get applied by the US dealers? If that is the case, it could be that some bikes roll off the showroom floor without.

For the sake of having a bike correct as built when new, I don't think you will be in error to have the reflectors on any US issue Hinckley Triumph. The last bike I owned prior to my current Triumph was a 1978 Yamaha (designed to emulate a BSA Gold Star.) It had these reflectors.

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I'm guessing here, but as the bikes are British made for the "world market", perhaps the reflectors get applied by the US dealers? If that is the case, it could be that some bikes roll off the showroom floor without.




None of my Americas has had reflectors....except on the the sissy bar. That got taken off! So I suspect put on by the US dealers may be the case.
My Kymco, however, has little reflectors, that I haven't taken off. They are so little and could be a right pain to take off, as they are not stick on and on the forks.


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"FORK reflectors"???!!!

Okay Bob ol' boy....now I think you're just puttin' us all on, aren't ya???

I know how it is. Ya get a reputation, and so ya start wantin' to have some fun with it. Heck, I do THAT all the time around here, as you've probably noticed.

(come on...tell me I'm right here)




After building hotrods all my life, i have been doing a number of different bikes.All still relatively new;... as far as the mechanics of them. I am relly enjoying restoring these bikes.

And i personally like the reflectors.

So i really am putting them back on, but i have only seen one bike[late model]that had them on the forks,So if anybody ..still.knows what years they are off of.

I can't be sending them back to britan ....now can i

Let me put it this way! I will think about it pretty hard before reinstalling them. So if this bike had reflectors before the wreck. Does this mean it was made for the USA. explicitly!.

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you can probably pick up some generic reflectors at an autoparts store.


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stick em where ever you desire. this image here was the official photo from hinckley and has no reflectors. Getting t-boned? a silly reflector won't shield you. If they can't see you with a headlight on, do you think they are going to see their own reflection in a little bitty reflector? Cinnamon girl has her reflector removed. Vera Lynn doesn't. Never much gave a dammm about removing them or replacing them on Cinnamon Girl. Who freaking cares about anything other than the motorsickle being mechanically sound, oh yeah and having a full tank of gas and a dog sniffable stash? ride man. just fire her up, aim it in a straight line then see if you can pull the lead stops off the carb side of the throttle cables.

in case you really truly want to be anal retentive and install the reflectors on the fork tubes, here is where the defunct stealership I bought Vera Lynn from installed them...







Vera Lynn trailers in good company eh?


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Who freaking cares about anything other than the motorsickle being mechanically sound, oh yeah and having a full tank of gas and a dog sniffable stash?




Didn't you mean 'non-dog sniffable' stash? Ya see, if anyone around here's gonna pick up on something like that I would be me. I have a 'nose' for such things.


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Hey Keith! Do you hear that BUZZING sound around here this morning???


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Hey Keith! Do you hear that BUZZING sound around here this morning???



There's an answer for ya down in the Tech-Misc forum in that mm-inch thread. This morning is more like a fuzz from last night's buzz.


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Hey Moe, what's the story that comes with that pic of those old beauties that are accompaning Vera Lynn inside that trailer, anyway?!


Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Hey Keith! Do you hear that BUZZING sound around here this morning???



There's an answer for ya down in the Tech-Misc forum in that mm-inch thread. This morning is more like a fuzz from last night's buzz.




Yeah, I know. I saw Bill's and erle's reeferences...errr...REFERENCES to another of your "recreational activities" recently, and that's why I thought I'd ask ya how your "hearing" is this morning, dude!

("reeferences"...not bad, eh?!)


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stick em where ever you desire. this image here was the official photo from hinckley and has no reflectors. Getting t-boned? a silly reflector won't shield you. If they can't see you with a headlight on, do you think they are going to see their own reflection in a little bitty reflector? Cinnamon girl has her reflector removed. Vera Lynn doesn't. Never much gave a dammm about removing them or replacing them on Cinnamon Girl. Who freaking cares about anything other than the motorsickle being mechanically sound, oh yeah and having a full tank of gas and a dog sniffable stash? ride man. just fire her up, aim it in a straight line then see if you can pull the lead stops off the carb side of the throttle cables.

in case you really truly want to be anal retentive and install the reflectors on the fork tubes, here is where the defunct stealership I bought Vera Lynn from installed them...







Vera Lynn trailers in good company eh?




Thank you for your uncensored point of view,I don't go fast.and i don't do dope.So everything else here is realitive. again thank you Moe.


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I don't go fast.and i don't do dope.So everything else here is relative.




HEY! What a coincidence here, Bob!

I had a relative who didn't do those two things EITHER...my Uncle Horace!!! Oh yeah...good ol' Uncle Horace. What a guy he was!!!

(...however, if I recall correctly, I think the first thing he always did after buyin' a new bike was to remove those funky ol' reflectors off it...and so, I guess that's where you and good ol' Uncle Horace part company, huh?!)



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Good answer dwight


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"Off topic"?! MEEEE???!!!

(wwwwhy, what's the chances of THAT happenin' 'round here, HUH?!)


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Dunno if its a USA only thing, but it's definitely some foreign malarkey

She ain't got 'em, she's never had 'em, and she wont ever have 'em



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Yeah, actually Bryn, you're correct.

(and to maybe put this "dire" issue to rest, once and for all here folks...)

It IS, a "USA thing", and has been since January 1, 1969, a D.O.T.(United States Department of Transportation) mandated equipment device on all new vehicles sold in this country. They also can, and must, be added upon import if these reflectors were not included as standard from the factory.
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D.O.T.Standard No. 108 - Lamps, Reflective Devices, and Associated Equipment - Passenger Cars, Multipurpose Passenger Vehicles, Trucks, Buses, Trailers, (except pole trailers and trailer converter dollies), and Motorcycles (Effective 1-1-68 for vehicles 2,032 mrn (80 or more inches) in width and Effective 1-1-69 for all other vehicles)

This standard specifies requirements for original and replacement lamps, reflective devices, and associated equipment. Its purpose is to reduce traffic crashes and deaths and injuries resulting from traffic crashes, by providing adequate illumination of the roadway, and by enhancing the conspicuity of motor vehicles on the public roads so that their presence is perceived and their signals understood, both in daylight and in darkness or other conditions of reduced visibility.
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And so Bob, am I back "on topic" again here, ol' buddy?


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Yep, must be a US only thing. They're supplied with bikes for Australia but not fitted or required here. I grabbed a set that was headed for the bin when I was at the dealer and stuck them all over the back of my trailer.

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BTW, some folks who are old enough(like me) might remember the difference between the Lucas taillamp design for the 1968, and the 1969 model year and later Triumphs, and indeed all the britbikes still in manufacture and imported into the U.S. by that date, with the '68s being the last bikes to have the old "classic" taillamp assembly, sans the arrow-shaped side reflectors which first appeared on the '69s and later U.S. models.

And THEN, later on in the '70s, those Lucas taillamps got REALLY large and REALLY squared-off, and with large rectangular side reflectors...and REALLY ugly, compared to the older Lucas designs!(well, in my opinion anyway)


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I am a little confused as to weather you have the reflectors you need or not but if you need them you can have mine for the postage it costs to send them to you.


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Uh UH, Ian! Get in line, dude!!!

I'll have you know I've been thinkin' of finally organizin' MY garage and gettin' rid of ALL that old useless crap that's been just sittin' around collectin' dust in there, and I was figurin' THIS was MY chance to finally get rid of those friggin' REFLECTORS once and for all!!!

(and so...no cut-zees here, bro!...the line starts BEHIND ME, ol' buddy!!!)


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makes no never mind to me, mine are in a box with all my new Triumph stuff.


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Who freaking cares about anything other than the motorsickle being mechanically sound, oh yeah and having a full tank of gas and a dog sniffable stash?




Didn't you mean 'non-dog sniffable' stash? Ya see, if anyone around here's gonna pick up on something like that I would be me. I have a 'nose' for such things.




lmao

a dog sniffable stash is legal. as in food. Heck even whiskey, which for you technophobes is still illegal i guess open beverage container and all. Sooo the smoke innuendo smoked out a smoker eh? or not as surely the reference was to smoking cigs which is still legal ... so far...


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Hey Moe, what's the story that comes with that pic of those old beauties that are accompaning Vera Lynn inside that trailer, anyway?!




AMA Vintage days going on two years ago when Triumph was the featured marquee. Triumph corporate wanted a first model year Bonneville America. Vera Lynn got a free ride to Ohio and back while I was stretching the throttle cables on Cinnamon Girl with englishyankee as we rode up to and back from the NH Rally. I figured Vera Lynn would represent that first model year as black is the bestest colour and the only colour for a true classic.


Prior discussion


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I am a little confused as to weather you have the reflectors you need or not but if you need them you can have mine for the postage it costs to send them to you.




Ok now i have it strait dwight.And thanks again.

And thank you to all who contributed to this thread. reflectors and grass. how did we ever get those two together! Now all i have to do is send my reflectors back to "bike bandit"


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I figured Vera Lynn would represent that first model year as black is the bestest colour and the only colour for a true classic.




Geez Jim,

After all these years of providing valuable ba.com assistance & advice from the great state of Florida..........I believe this may be the first erroneous thng you've said !!!!

Mulberry is kinda' like Cardinal Red isn't it ????

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Mulberry is kinda' like Cardinal Red isn't it ????




It is John... it's almost the same thing, even on a sunny day. Just wear your rose coloured glasses and you won't see a difference.


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Uh UH, Ian! Get in line, dude!!!

I'll have you know I've been thinkin' of finally organizin' MY garage and gettin' rid of ALL that old useless crap that's been just sittin' around collectin' dust in there, and I was figurin' THIS was MY chance to finally get rid of those friggin' REFLECTORS once and for all!!!

(and so...no cut-zees here, bro!...the line starts BEHIND ME, ol' buddy!!!)




Well, it's apparently a moot point now, but scroll on up to the THIRD post in this thread.

And then get in line behind me


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The whole reason for side reflectors is for night riding so that if you are sitting perpendicular to oncoming traffic they can see your reflectors as light is actually invisible. It is a safety item that does make sense but it takes away from the bike as well. You make the call, its your bike.

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After I avoided getting rear ended for the third time at night I went to the local auto parts store and bought a $5 roll of reflective red tape.

I applied it liberally to the back end of my saddle bags and I have not had a another close encounter since.

The Romulian Cloaking Device that was installed by the Factory has been negated by those little pieces of tape for the meantime.


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