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Check it out, give it a ride around the block. Let me know what additions you might want. NEW improved Jetting Calculator for 2010I will also give the Visual Basic 6.0 code to anyone that wishes it.
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I just took it for a spin. It's missing the K&N single filter but I used UNI instead which is about the same I figure. I like the auto-calculate feature! Great interface!! Muchas gracias!!
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still not MAC friendly eh! FINE....Ill go give it a whirl on the old desktop.
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ok.... Its not Windows 7 compatable. I tried on two machines runnign Win 7 and I get an error. If anyone smarter than me has a way around this please share. I might suggest adding a calculation for 40 pilots as well (those are stock). I dont know what would be involved but maybe adding DNA filters in there as well? If its even pertinent, they flow similar to K&N but slightly more form what Ive seen online. Aside form that.... THANK YOU PAT! for providing such a helpful tool to the masses. 
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I run Windows XP, so it seems to function well for me. Thanks for updating it Pat!
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It's not Vista compatable also but runs well on my backup desktop...with XP.
Looks good to me. Much appreciated.
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Its not Windows 7 compatible. I tried on two machines running Win 7 and I get an error. If anyone smarter than me has a way around this please share.
I might suggest adding a calculation for 40 pilots as well (those are stock).
I dont know what would be involved but maybe adding DNA filters in there as well? If its even pertinent, they flow similar to K&N but slightly more form what Ive seen online.
Aside form that....THANK YOU PAT! for providing such a helpful tool to the masses.
HMM, I run XP still and compiled it there as well. Isn't there a compatibility option in Vista/7 that will run 32 bit code on a 64 bit OS? If you right click on the icon and go to Properties there should be a tab "Compatibility"???
Just answered my own question. I checked daughters puter with 7 and it runs fine in the compatibility mode for XP w/SP3 mode.
Just right click on the icon, go to properties, check the "Run in compatibility mode for..." and then select Windows XP with SP3.
I could also add the other air cleaners as well, but since they are basically the same, why bother?
I will post a zip file called Calculator2010.zip in the dinqua.com.triumph/executables folder if anyone wants to fetch it and play with it. But you will need to have VB6.0 professional developer series to work with it.
VB Code for Calculator
Also, here is text file if some Mac guy wants to code it and compile it for a mac as well. Not sure this will help but This is text file of the code
as far as the 40 pilots, well, in 2003 the pilots were 42 and now the new 42s are called 40s, (SAME JET!!!) so as not to confuse anyone, just assume the 42s as stock.
And for all the guys that will say I could have done it with a much smaller codification, feel free to make your own version. I release all rights to the public so have at it, open source is a wonderful thing.
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Not working for me with W7 x64 in any compatibility modes for some reason. The virtual XP mode did the trick and still convinced I re-jetted correctly (in theory anyway  ). Looks more clear than the old calculator and is even easier to use than the old one. Nice job!
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Much respect to Doctor Dinqua and his contributions to the health and well being of the Triumph brand. I'd have to believe he's saved us an aggregate of many thousands of dollars as compared to paying dealer prices. Without his step by step with photos carb primer, I'd be back at stock. (Not to mention the flat as a pancake dyno curve I got from his calc app.) Here's to ya Doc  And thanks for the new calc app and the many hours it takes to put together your contributions, like the carb photo essay primer and the now world famous shim calculator (I was in the process of writing my own shim calc software to show everybody how smart I was, but as I was cipherin' it on out, I ran out of guzintas)
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Just answered my own question. I checked daughters puter with 7 and it runs fine in the compatibility mode for XP w/SP3 mode.
Just right click on the icon, go to properties, check the "Run in compatibility mode for..." and then select Windows XP with SP3.
What I found on my windows 7 box, was that in addition to running xp sp3 compatibility mode, I needed to check the "run in 256 colors" check box. This is in the settings directly under the drop box for compatibility mode.
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Just answered my own question. I checked daughters puter with 7 and it runs fine in the compatibility mode for XP w/SP3 mode.
Just right click on the icon, go to properties, check the "Run in compatibility mode for..." and then select Windows XP with SP3.
What I found on my windows 7 box, was that in addition to running xp sp3 compatibility mode, I needed to check the "run in 256 colors" check box. This is in the settings directly under the drop box for compatibility mode.
Good to know, now, does anyone have an Apple conversion utility?
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"run in 256 colors"
Oh He|| No!
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Ever consider making this into a web application? That would remove OS considerations or the download.
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Does anyone know if these calculations work on the 865 carb bikes?
'06 SM with T100/America Wheels (D&D's, 10.5 to 1 Wiseco pistons, TTP Igniter +3, K&N PODS, 150 x 40, FZ1 springs & TBS needles w/3 shims)
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Okay, I'm too friggin excited to wait. It will probably bite me in the butt telling people about this before Pat and I do more testing, but heck, y'all can help test it. http://www.friarsride.com/techwiki/jetting-calculator/My first javascript (JQuery) application. Should work in every browser and on every platform, assuming you don't have javascript disabled (but you can have stylesheets (CSS) disabled). The biggest difference between this and Pat's original application is that you have to click the "Calculate" button to update the main jet number. I also posted a little more about it here: http://www.friarsride.com/nerding/
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What about K&N drop in filters? I see pods and Freak. Not trying to be that guy,but I know many of us have K&Ns. Other than that it worked perfect for me. 
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Do you think the K&N stock-replacement filter flows substantially more or less than the Unifilter?
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I doubt that there is that much of a diference. I am sure someone will chime in if there is an other opionion. 
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The dynajet needle is not changing the # of shims to positions. Otherwise it looks great!
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I sent Pat a private message when he fist posted this and I found it to be the opposite of what it used to be for my set up and location. It used to be a bit on the rich side now it is a bit on the lean side. He replied that he could use that type of feed back so he can tweek it. My bike has been on the dyno a couple times and so has Wendy's so it isn't a case of my reading the plugs and drawing my conclusion. It wouldn't hurt to post any other feed back from guys who jetted on a dyno. It isn't lean by much and before it wasn't rich by much. The calc. says 145.5 main for me and I run a 155 so it is close.
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I'm not the numbers guy, but when Pat updates the math I can easily update the web version.
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The dynajet needle is not changing the # of shims to positions. Otherwise it looks great!
Can you be more specific? When you use the dynajet needles to you automatically add shims? When I click dynajet needles and click calculate it jumps from 120 to 126.
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The Dynajet needle has a c-clip and four slots on the top of the needle. (By the way, this is the stock needle for a 06 865 Speedmaster) So it is not shim but rather a position on the needle. In the windows program, it jumps out of the shim window and into a position window - with settings like upper, middle, standard and lower. Or something like that - doing this from memory (on a mac right now).
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You're absolutely right, I missed that one. I'll let you know when it's fixed.
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You fixed the dynajet needle!
I just did a side by side comparison.
With TORS, Sea Level, K&N Pods, 42 Pilots and DynaJet (one down) - the windows program says Main should be 146. Your web version says 140. Something not right with the math some where?
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I'll check with Pat. I pulled the values out of his original data file and I might have grabbed the wrong numbers.
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I think I missed the number for the initial Dynajet needle selection. Try it now.
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Yes that is better! Numbers match now.
Thanks!
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5mm shims? Shouldn't that be 0.5mm?
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are you talking thickness or diameter?
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No, it's a typo. Shim thickness is .5mm--not sure why they're called "stock" though.
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I going to ask the obvious question: What was wrong with the old Jetting Calculator? It said I needed 138 mains, the closest the dealer had was 140's, for $2.50 each, runs like a champ. The new Calc says I need 131.5s. No comprende. Is it because the new one doesn't have a spot for Drilled Airbox? 
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No just different formula, as I said the last one was a little rich for my set up now this one is a little lean but either way it makes a good starting point. A lot of work for no pay on Pat's part in my opinion and very nice of him. Given all the variables I doubt one can be made that would be 100% for all set ups and locations all at the same time. You would have to take temp,humidity,elevation,and all mods into account to get it perfect and even then there would probably be small differences.
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Opening up the bottom of the airbox and filter makes a pretty big difference. I noticed it didn't have the check box for the drilled airbox as well. 
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I can certainly update the web version if Pat comes up with the numbers.
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John, that's pretty slick! In your form, can't you just use an onClick() to call your calculating function?
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Yeah, but I wanted to play with the JQuery Javascript library and embedding onclick events is the "Old Wayâ„¢" of doing things. I've been designing and developing with full separate of the content (HTML) and presentation (CSS) layer, but never the behavior (JS) layer. Ordinarily I wouldn't even have the CSS and JS stuff in the <head> but this is a simple, one-pager.
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John, that's pretty slick! In your form, can't you just use an onClick() to call your calculating function?
That is how I do mine in the VB version.
By the way, I have updated the program's numbers some more. I tweaked them a bit, especially the DynaJet ones.
Any input from youz DynaJet needle guys would be appreciated.
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You wanna send me your changes?
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BTW, Dinqua just added the drilled airbox thingy. Now mine says 138, old calc, 137.5, new calc. Our resident Merlin strikes again. 
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I spoke to a mechanic today and told him I changed main jets and needles and used a certain calculator at the internet to help. He said like "what?" and I added that theres this really pro guy in the US that made the calculator to help people rejet.
He replied "but they use totally different fuel in the US". This got me confused, since I really don't see the difference. Sure we have higher octane (I think) 95 and 98. I normally use 98.
Maybe a totally stupid question, but tell my kind of stupid person, does fuel make that big of a difference and should I rejet cause of this conversation? I really don't think so.
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Pat's calculator yields results that should serve as a starting point when you jet due to a throughput change. After installing the recommend jets, you may have to alter the recommended jets. Plug chops, seat of the pants and even a dyno run will fine tune the selections. Check for the best main first. Then the best midrange setup (jet needles/shims, etc) then the pilot circuit. Sure fuel makes a difference, but not to the point where using the first iteration of Pat's recommended jetting would be a concern. Operative words: Starting point.
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Noticed on the stock pipes there is only option for 1, 2, and All baffles removed. There are 4 in the pipes I just cleaned out, so I guess it depends on the year of the stockers?
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In the snorkel status box, "top removed" would mean no snorkel and a bellmouth (or not). "All removed" means no airbox at all. Is this correct?
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In the snorkel status box, "top removed" would mean no snorkel and a bellmouth (or not). "All removed" means no airbox at all. Is this correct?
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Thanks, Pat. Between the calculator and your site, think I got her pretty close to dialed in.
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what exactly is the diff. between drag pipes and, misc open exhaust? please and thank you. Also drilling the air box is obviously the area under wear the filter seats. what size hole would one drill.
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I'm getting conflicting advice on the size mains i need...If someone could help me I'd greatly appreciate it. Just wanna make sure I'm using this calculator right...I have a 05 Speedmaster, airbox removed, K&N pods, D&D pipes, approx 1,000 above sea (kansas city). I've been told I need 150 or smaller, 160, and I'm getting 154.5 when I use this calculator. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. The only mods before my airbox removal was the D&D pipes and dealer rejetted so I'm assuming pilots and needles are stock...
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Hello everyone I'm not much of a computer geek and can't get this to run on my apple. I have a 2005 america with epco pipes AI removed and K&N filter. Can someone please run the numbers for me.
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Hey Bart... I did that for you and came up with 129 (ish) mains. That's with no mods to the airbox, stock needles with no shims, 42 pilots and an elevation of 1000-2000ft.
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Thank you Keith everything else is just as you say.
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I've never been able to get the new calculator to work, it gives me an "unexpected error" message. The old one seems to work ok though.
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Same here, not a regular error, but an unexpected one.
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Thank you Keith everything else is just as you say.
You are welcome!
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I dont think its compatable with windows 7.
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right click 'run as admin' .. it will work
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I've never been able to get the new calculator to work, it gives me an "unexpected error" message. The old one seems to work ok though.
Try Friars Web Version of Jetting calculator. As far as I know this works across platforms too. I tried it in Ubuntu Linux and it also worked fine.
A word to the wise is not necessary. It is the stupid ones who need the advice.
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both say i need a 125.5 main jet. so do i go with the 125 or up it to 130.
If it isn't broke, I haven't messed with it.
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you can buy 125.5 jets don't cha ya know? Or use 126s?
A word to the wise is not necessary. It is the stupid ones who need the advice.
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I've never been able to get the new calculator to work, it gives me an "unexpected error" message. The old one seems to work ok though.
Try Friars Web Version of Jetting calculator. As far as I know this works across platforms too. I tried it in Ubuntu Linux and it also worked fine.
I also just edited my site so Friar's javascript version is on the main page now so have at it guys and gulls.
A word to the wise is not necessary. It is the stupid ones who need the advice.
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Thank you Pat, works fer me now
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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Dang, I should move that to this server now.
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I also just edited my site so Friar's javascript version is on the main page now so have at it guys and gulls.
You da Man, Pat! Appreciate it!!
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Pat - Does this calculator apply if you have a 904cc kit installed?
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Pat - Does this calculator apply if you have a 904cc kit installed?
Yes, I have the 904 and everything is still the same.
A word to the wise is not necessary. It is the stupid ones who need the advice.
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Thanks a million Pat ,you just saved me a lot of hassle. I removed the snorkel yesterday, installed the Norman Hyde high intake bellmouth re-jetted according to Pat's calculator. Took the bike to the nearest dyno centre (110 miles away) dyno run shows the bike to be nearly spot on. (a tad rich at full throttle) 
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Cannot get either of the calculators to run using my computer XP version. I have the jets required for my mod but the friend who is doing it wanted to see the chart. I'll send a link to this thread to him see if he can open it.
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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Zat Vorks, Danka
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Guys what pipes would be equivalent to the Emgo turn-outs or Emgo cocktail shakers for calculator input?
The turn-outs have a small non removable baffle and the cocktails have a removable baffle with a fibreglass packing wrap.
I am thinking of changing pipes from Short TORS on my 07 Speedmaster and need to check new jetting size.
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I am not a expert but I think it would be Epco or JC Whitney for the turn outs. I don't know for the cocktails.
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of course JC Whitney supply Emgo. I will go with that.
Looks like I need to upgrade from my 125 main to a 130 (suggests a 131.5) however I might have to put in a needle shim which brings the main recommendation back down to 129.5
That being with JC pipes, stock pilots, uni single filter, top of snorkle removed @ sea-level.
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Well I'll be durn. I had Pat's old calculator but just now gave this one a test. My setup is Thunderbike's, stock needles, 1 shim, drilled slide, K&N duals, 42 pilots. Low and behold the main jet calculated to exactly what I have in there, 152.5s. Good job Pat! 155s were too fat.
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Please Help. I am sorry for this question but I can not find a place to get main jets for 2006 triumph america 790cc, bike is not running good at all and can not ride
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Those so easy to source it's crazy. Those carbs were used on many different bikes, almost any rice shop should be able to get them, HD used them too but they usually have too large a jets for us since they used one cab on a 1300+cc engine. I am sure Fast Eddy can get them for you too as well as Bella Corse, TTP, etc..
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Please Help. I am sorry for this question but I can not find a place to get main jets for 2006 triumph america 790cc, bike is not running good at all and can not ride
Why are you sure your jets are the problem? Have you went from running fine to poorly after modifications, please elaborate a little. Such as, what did you change, if anything?
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Hi Ryk, I did remove one baffle from each stock exhaust pipe and after few days of raiding bike stared to do small explosion but never die on. me but I have to rev throttle to keep it going until I got home, my carburator is a CVK
KEIHIN MODEL 1242700 TIG
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The Dog33, I went to an HD repair shop and ask them about 124 main jets for my Triumph America and the guy said to remove the jet and bring it in. I prefer to have the jets in hand when I am about to open my carburetor, I will also replace carb cover screws, remove hidden filter and replace it with a see thru filter. this is my first bike and has about 8K miles.
Thank you for your help.
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The cover screws can be sourced at a decent hardware store. Not doing anything to the intake and just removing one baffle will not cause your bike to cease running. You may need to re-jet, but you might have other issues, is what I'm trying to convey.
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I agree. We really need more info to have a good suggestion on what route to take.
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Hi Guys, My problem started just last Saturday, I rode for about 1/2 an hour refill gas and then I notice loose of power and I just came back home. should I check hidden filter?
thanks again
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Lose the hidden filter and replace with a inline one and that possible problem fades away. Did you buy some bad gas? It's been known to happen. After changing out the gas, add some Seafoam and see it that helps.
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I would drain the bowls into a container and see if there is any water or dirt in it too.
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It's supposed to be one of the best brands, I will remove hidden filter and replace it with inline fuel filter, change gas and follow with Seafoam.
Thank you so much guys
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any body has a part number for my 124 main jets?
Thank you guys
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any body has a part number for my 124 main jets?
Thank you guys
Fast Eddy Sports or BellaCourse is a the only mail order source you need for jets. Either will send you what you need the first time. Or just go to a local Japanese bike shop.
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Thank you Ryk, I did send a message to Fast Eddy. I am waiting for an answer.
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Eddy has a full time job as a Helo para-medic, along with his other endeavors. He'll be in touch.
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any body has a part number for my 124 main jets?
Thank you guys
Fast Eddy Sports or BellaCourse is a the only mail order source you need for jets. Either will send you what you need the first time. Or just go to a local Japanese bike shop.
Think I pretty much said that a few posts back.  
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The learning curve or the circle. We learn by redundancy.
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Hi guys, Eddy contacted me already and He is checking on my jets. Thank you for your help from a completely Newb.
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is THERE ANY MEMBERS IN LOS ANGELES CA AREA ?
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I Used Dinqua's calculator. Awesome. That being said I have a few questions.
I have a 2007 Speedmaster with British Customs Bomber Exhaust mufflers and stock jet needles. I'm planning on removing the airbox and putting Dual K&N (Freak)on.
Do my mufflers fall under the "Misc Open Pipes"?
The Calculator says 120 for Main Jets with Stock Pilot Jets and Needles. Do I need to or would it help to change the stock Pilots and Needles?
Thanks for any help on this.
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I would think the Bomber exhausts would be close to Epcos, increase your pilots up 2 or 4 points too. I'm guessing 146 Mains for a start. Just console yourself, you're going up in jet size with the config change you described. Try some T-Bird Sport needles, they work well for me with no shims. Once you feel your close to optimum, it's Dyno run time to get it perfect.
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Thanks Ryk. Off to do some wrenching now.
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Hi guys. Can anyone suggest jetting for an 03 BA with BC cocktail shaker, k&n pods setup? The calculator doesn't show shakers but I'm guessing a good starting point would be 152 or so mains with 45 pilots and stock needles without shims. BC told me they recommend 135 to 140 and 42's which doesn't sound right. 2000ft elevation. I'll probably have to experiment a little but if anyone has this setup I'll start with what works. Thanks.
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I have gutted stock with pods at about 1800' and runn 155 and 48. I dyno with a good mixture.
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Thanks Dog. That's much appreciated.
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What's the difference between "Dual K&N (FREAK)" and "K&N PODS"??? I have two individual K&N Pod filters on my '06 Speedmaster (on it when I got it).
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Same thing from my perspective.
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Wow, this has been out there awhile.
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