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Great idea Chris. And thanks a million for the detailed pictorial. That looks good and does the job!!

E-mail from LFC:
"It will fit on the earlier Speedmaster, at some point they have gone to a much wider frontend and I do not think it will work on these models. If for some reason yours doesnt fit just return it to us for a refund."

When did the front end change ???

It didn't, other than the later tapered shrouds which shouldn't effect anything.

Have we seen this thing in action yet? I didn't see any pictures.


Clay

Not to sidetrack this thread, but what type of speedometer do Suzuki's and Kawasaki's use. There is a cable available that looks mechanical in the pictures for the Acewell speedo's.

Good job M.M. Now im saving up my $ to get one of those. Thinking on the spedo drive outlet, it has a thread - maybee some sort of cap-nut would do the job, sort of like a valve cap on the wheel.

After several e-mails with LFC they say the adapter will not fit.

I've had the same info Jim. I have just emailed them back as you're post wasn't up yet and no doubt will be told the same thing again.

Mind you, they did say they wouldn't mind someone like myself send them my speedo drive so they could use it as a prototype to develop one.

No discount or anything though

Maybe they think I'm one of their benevolent fund's

Btw, I also emailed Acewell or their parent company and was told I had to ask the Aus Distributor any questions. Geez, here we go again. Another middle man fleecing the poor downtrodden staffo.

When the dust settles and Keith can get off his instrument and back on his bike after it stops snowing over there, I might be able to get a better picture of what model I want, and some answers to some of my questions too.

Until then it might be in the "little too hard basket" just for now.

Fyi, here's the Aus distributors website which at least has a few more pics.

I just received this reply from LFC re the speedo drive eliminator after writing this:

Hi Jeremy,

Not that I doubt your accuracy but prior to sending my question to you, I read info on a forum I regularly visit that said another member had been in contact with your company also and he was told:

E-mail from LFC:

"It will fit on the earlier Speedmaster, at some point they have gone to a much wider frontend and I do not think it will work on these models. If for some reason yours doesnt fit just return it to us for a refund."

Would you be able to clarify one way or the other so I can inform the members.

Btw, I do suspect perhaps it may fit the Triumph America as it doesn’t have a cast wheel as it is spoked, but I’m only guessing.

Jeremy from LFC's reply was:

"This is correct, I found out while dealing with the mentioned customer that it will not fit the cast wheel on a speedmaster, it should fit the america laced wheel as long as the spacing remains the same (which i believe it was on earlier models). I offered to let him try it, and send it back if it didnt fit, which of course would help answer my questions as well. Im not trying to give false information, just provide myself and my customers with more of it! Thanks and hope this helps, and if you have any other questions please let me know!

Jeremy Cupp
www.lcfabrications.com


So that appears to be the state of play for now, re the speedo drive eliminator from LFC.

Maybe someone closer to their business location can assist them and in so doing us, in determining a definitive answer or better still for me, lend them the later model cast wheel setup so they can manufacture an eliminator for our later bikes.

I'm not sure we will have many takers but eventually this should be sorted.
staffo

Isn't Keith's America an '02 or '03?

Thanks Staffo for the groundwork you've done on the speedo drive eliminator. But cha know... for the $50 they want, I think I'll just stick a vacuum cap on there and call it a day.

I'm hearing ya. Ya know, I didn't say this before but in my original email reply from the speedo drive eliminator mob, the bloke offered I send him my speedo drive so they could use it as a prototype but stressed "no discount" would be offered

So let me get this right. I take my speedo drive apart, send it over at my expence, they use it to develope what we would like but not only am I unsure I would get the drive back, for my generosity They'll let me buy the kit at their recommended retail price.

I'm thinking, either I've read wrong which I didn't, or the bloke I'm talking to has no idea who he's talking to, or there are a lot of dumbos out that might actually agree to this Amicable Arrangement.

Yep, I'm hearing ya

I see this guy at the VA/MD shows. The Maryland show is coming up in May. He should remember me as I gave him a copy of our wiring schematic when he first started down this road (made the request on the Jockey Journal). Unfortunately, I have an America so my bike is not good as a donor. I'll have a few Baltimore folks with me, one or two has a castwheel Speedy.
Maybe we can work something out. I'm just wondering how many of these things would be actually needed to make it a worthwhile effort?

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I just received this reply from LFC re the speedo drive eliminator after writing this:

So that appears to be the state of play for now, re the speedo drive eliminator from LFC.

Maybe someone closer to their business location can assist them and in so doing us, in determining a definitive answer or better still for me, lend them the later model cast wheel setup so they can manufacture an eliminator for our later bikes.

I'm not sure we will have many takers but eventually this should be sorted.
staffo

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I think (correct me it I am wrong) the LFC eliminator covers the "hole" in the wheel and covers the seal and on the other end it provided the proper wheel spacing. The spacing on a speedmaster and the America may be different...but would the "hole" in the wheel be the same ?

With any luck I should be able to road test the Acewell this weekend.

A small update... getting the console back on was a b!tch with all the extra wires in there. If ya go this route, pay attention making sure things fit neatly under that hunk of chrome plastic. It will fit, just not easily.

Okay... I did the road test today. Went out on the bike (first time this year) and had a chance to check out the Acewell. The speedo was completely inaccurate but that's due to not dialing in the wheel diameter properly. Will fine tune over the next few days. The tach was a little jumpy I thought... but that might be due to not having enough wire wrapped around the spark plug wire. Will look into that.

It's very easy to read. I have a lot to get used to on the Acewell, as it is has quite a few different functions. But I can see once I get it set up right, it is going to be a nice replacement for the stock speedo. And aesthetically speaking... it is so nice to be rid of the stock (always thought it looked just sort of stuck on, like an afterthought). The new speedo gives the front a nice clean look.

I hooked my tach directly to the stock taco wire in the dash, there is a connection for the stock one, so I do not have to wrap the wire to the plugs,My tacho I believe to be very accurate. Hopes this helps.

i just ordered one...can't wait to lose that stock speedo!

The stock tach is electric pick up, if you plug into that wiring harness. I have an Acewell model ACE-2802AB-MX. If you didnt have a stock tach, look in the haynes maual wiring diagram it will point to the right one. Hope that helps.

Thanks Kevin... here's a decent picture of the Acewell (taken at 1:55 I might add) after reassembly of the bike and getting 'er back on the road.

Very nice Keith. I know what you mean by tidying things up too. I love the so called minimalistic look myself and ever since I saw this thread and your acewell, I was virtually sold straight away.

I guess my only probs with the console mounted model is my eyes seeing the info easilly enough and my not liking to look down so far. It's only a personal me thing so I need to ask acewell about a model to mount on the original bracket.

I still can't seem to find the answers to my questions yet cos I'm still confused which functions are possible and which ones just aren't. When I can find out what is possible then I might be able to determinev a model.

Thanks for all your efforts in letting us know about this one. Much appreciated mate.

Sraffo

More pics of the whole bike sans stock speedo please.

You said it was easy to read - how about in bright overhead sunlight (we have a lot of that here)?

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I guess my only probs with the console mounted model is my eyes seeing the info easilly enough and my not liking to look down so far. It's only a personal me thing so I need to ask acewell about a model to mount on the original bracket.

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Mine came with a little mounting bracket (I think they all do) which in turn could be mounted on a p-clamp in the bars. I too had a concern about console mounting and having to look down that far but it really is not a problem.

Hi Keith, I hope you aren't getting fed up with all these questions but I was wondering if you could confirm what functions you actually do have and did you consider having as many functions as possible and if you couldn't include one or two, why not.

I've spent ages researching this one but am not being able to get the info I've been after. Doing some googling I've even come across some wiring diagram links but they don't take me to one.

I've also emailed the Aussie distributor for a diagram but no joy yet.

Personally I'd like to make this one of my better inclusions but I'm not going to buy one until I can get the answers I'm after. So I guess I'm asking whether you have come across any other helpful links which might help me gather some more info

Personally I'd like any new gauge I bought to have as many functions as possible and not just idiot lights either. Maybe I'm asking too much here I dunno.

So if you happened to have any good contacts or links with more than the standard blurb I'd appreciate it.

Cheers
staffo

Hey Staffo... I don't have any links other than this one which is where I bought my Acewell. I found the guys there to be helpful via email so you might try them. What functions are you looking for?

Update on the Acewell

Now that riding season's kicked in, I've had a chance to really get familiar with my new Acewell speedo. I LOVE IT. Love the tach... love having two trip-o-meters, love the clock, elapsed time, max speed, etc. It is easy to read both before and after dark.

My only beef is the idiot lights are next to useless. They are just too dim to be of any use. So if you're installing an Acewell you might want to keep the lights you already have. Otherwise... well worth the modest investment.

Thanks for the update Keith ang great you love your new acewell and more importantly, excellent your getting out on your bike after a long winter.

I haven't forgotten my future plans on getting an Acewell but I'm after a bar mounted version that I've been told is advertised but not out yet. Not too sure of the accuracy of the companies last statement but because they have been good on the communication side of the equation and have promised to send me answers and literature on my questions, I've decided I'll wait to buy an expensive stand first before I look at the new Speedo.

staffo

Hi MM,
Speedo looks cool.

Just a quick question on the idiot lights on the Acewell.

Did you end up disabling the idiot lights on the speedo and reinstating in to the tank console or even better do you think you could run both or does the speedo require you wire these up.

Has anyone used the Acewell 2856. I think you can use your the mechanical speedo cable via an attachment into the back of the acewell.
http://www.acewell.co.uk/Acewell%20Speedometers/ACE-2xxx/index.htm

As the Speedmaster already has a tacho, I’m thinking the cable from this would just plug straight in to the Acewell without the need to do anything else, anyone confirm this, thanks

The idiot lights on the speedo are pretty much useless... that's the only thing I don't like about it. I actually wired in both the speedo and console lights. As far as the speedometer cable goes, I was told they don't have an adapter that works with our bikes and in retrospect, I'm glad I went with the magnet pickup. It get's rid of the cable and helps clean up the front end.

Hope this helps!

Cheers,

does that mean when you indicate you can have the lights on the speedo and the tank console come on at the same time, if so will probably just go for that model, as we know, thanks to your efforts that it works.

the speedo you have is also avialable in Oz so postage would be less and I would get it quicker.

The only reason I was looking at the 2856 (only aviable in the UK), is that appears to have its idiot lights as LED (They only light up when used, so you don't see them unless they are on).

The minimalist in me doesn't want a set of non functioning lights just sitting there.

Yeah, does useless mean weak or non-functional?

Yup, the lights on the console and speedo come on at the same time. But like I say, the speedo lights are virtually useless. They are pretty much impossible to see in the daylight and when you can see them, the burning light tends to illuminate anything adjacent to itself. Other than that the instrument is great!!

Thanks again,

Just placed the order for it, ended up getting the 2856 model from the UK, hasn't got the bulbs and uses LED's so yoou won't see the lights unless on, will let you all know if they have better vis than the bulbs on the 2853.

Also ordered the speedo attachment as well as the read switch so I can play about with both. Like the idea of fitting it to the back wheel.

Just tried fitting my T bars but bugger - the cables are all to short, think the guy made them for the America as they are slightly longer.

If I have to get new cables made I'm gonna go a lot higher on the bars than the 32' * 6' high * 8' pull back that I was told would be a straight swap

Yup, I think the LEDs will work better over the incandescent bulbs. Would love to hear how things turn out for ya!

Hi there MM & 05 Speedmaster

Do you have any pics of the sensor on the rear wheel. Just trying to figure out what side to put it on \ location and did you jsut use electrical ties to put it on, thanks,

Going to put a 8mm magnet on the rear brake for the sensor pick up.

Does nayone know which colour wire from the Speedo Tacho on the speedmaster goes to the yellow wire on the acewel tacho

Just a quick update to say I have received the Acewell speedo from the UK (www.acewell.co.uk). Craig who I dealt with in the UK was really good sort and came back with answers to all my questions straight away.

Postage was only $20 from UK to NZ and the unit came in around $200 NZ. I could have got it form S3 in Oz, however they didn't have the model I wanted.

I have tried it in the console by swapping out the tacho and it fits perfectly with out any mods. Just making a braket for it to hild it in and then just need to wire it up. Thanks everyone for all the help, will post some photos when it done.

Just read your post, Graeme and I will get some good close up pics to ya right away. I just have to find my camera, lol!!