i might be wrong but i seem to recall, we got them from cafe press and all profits went to help maintain the site. i know i have one on all my jackets but i would like to get a couple more if they become available again. I DO THINK they should be sold for a small profit and all proceeds go to the site ie; Robert. And yes in the beginning when the idea first came up there were a few designs considered and there was a vote/ poll taken and thats the patch design that was decided on.