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My new Procomm CDI just arrived! Good thing too, because I rode home from school today on one cylinder! What timing! The installation is easy, but you do have to reuse the mounting bracket and those weird plastic fasteners that come on the stock CDI. The standard map is very close to stock. On Wesley from Procomm's advice I altered the timing to: 0-2Krpm no change 2K-5K +2.5 degree advanced 5K-7K +3.5 degree 7K-9.5K(!) +2 degree The software is developed for EFI bikes as well, so the only parts we can use are ignition timing to rpm ,TPS to rpm, and rev limiter. But it's not recommended that we set it above 9500rpm. It runs like a bandit! Strong pickup, nice roll-on power, and it keeps on pulling. The rev limiter is set at 9500, I ran it to 8400 and the power didn't taper off. Methinks I like this.   
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that is awesome news. glad to know that there are some options out there now.
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Arrrggghhhh cant wait now to get mine.. BrianT, 8400 RPM!!! you mad m0f0 LOL, I intend upping my max rpm to 8000 as my bike cuts out completely if I hit the limiter at 7500 rpm, scary crap just when you need it to be running.
Also, I have my TPS disconnected, should I reconnect it do you think?
Do you think its worth me hosting a MAP share on my PC? like somewhere we can all go to get and share custom maps?
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Try it with and without the TPS to determine if you want it. Great news indeed. 
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Just ordered mine... Wesley really seems a decent bloke to do buisness with.. now I have to wait >3 weeks for it to arrive  TrOjAn
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God that's freaking awesome... I really want one too. I was keeping up with the other thread about these but never saw(or missed it) anything about continued availability. Are these going to be built in limited numbers or is there time to wait??????????
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How much did that thing set u back
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Steelheart- '03 Speedmaster Black/Yellow
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Cost to UK is $228 shipped, expect about another $60 on import duties and postal costs but still better than a Triumph one.
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 Two bills for a brand new CDI begs the question of used CDI pricing. Seems to me that used CDI prices should fall to 50 bucks.
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that's what I thought about it too... we'll see, since not every owner reaps the benefits of this forum and may not know
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Two bills for a brand new CDI begs the question of used CDI pricing. Seems to me that used CDI prices should fall to 50 bucks.
Should be more like 25.
The only reason they were worth anything is there was no alternative.
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2005 America 145 mains, , #48 pilots, , k&n pod filters, ported intakes manifolds, nology coils and wires, pro com CDI, 62 HP at wheel 68,000 hard miles still runs great gone "traded"
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I just went to the web site it says there $269
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I just went to the web site it says there $269
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nothing wrong with mine original one but as long as this one has 12 months warranty have to use it  its not remapped coz have no acces to computer with pre Vista windows 
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Well, how does your motorsickle run with procom's CDI? I'll be installing mine today on Cinnamon Girl. And you're correct about the Vista BS. To reprogram I'll need the office puter. Or create a bootable XP partition on my home Vista Laptop. grrr Here is a picture of Brian's (BrianT) remap... 
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went to Shaun place  and back around 70 miles and works normal like should be 
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Can you program it with Windows 7?
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It's been a while since I went Mac but I'm surprised that Vista doesn't offer the same legacy mode that XP does when you install an older design program. In XP you used to be able to right click on the install file and spec run in Win98 mode and then do the same to the .exe file which gave you a legacy operating mode. Did they remove this feature in Vista or is it just undocumented?
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Vista was such a hunk of junk. Another cash grab for Microsoft. At least we have Windows 7 on our laptop.
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Isn't Windows 7 an upgraded version of Vista?
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Tum de tum MINES ARRIVED!!! yeehaaaa.. driver dont work in Windows 7 BUT.. this one does :P http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/downloads.asp?ID=31Filename PL2303_Prolific_DriverInstaller_v110.zip download, unzip, run and then plugin your ecu. *** I take no responsibility if you nuke your CDI *** Sent an email to Wesley with the link so he can check it out, no reason to worry as its the same device, just an updated driver Now all I have to do is be patient for my tank respray to come back and Ill have a day playing with it 
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I see Moe posted my map. It works great. The roll-on response is fantastic. The 9500rpm rev limiter feels weird, though. I haven't run it past 8300, and normally I stay below 7500.
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I see Moe posted my map. It works great. The roll-on response is fantastic. The 9500rpm rev limiter feels weird, though. I haven't run it past 8300, and normally I stay below 7500.
EEEEEK!!! 8300 RPM.. scary stuff man, I intend on raising mine to 8000 max, I normally hit the limiter about 7500 and only need a few extra as thats just as I gear change..
I really need to research the mapping and what Im actually doing, dont want to overkill it.
Might fit mine this week all being well.
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Been away,where do I get one?
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Want to separate the CDI from the ignitor bracket? Here is an xray vision view.
Triumph calls the fasteners, Item 8 - Barbed Rivets.
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I bought second bracket and rivets, paid almost 8 pounds
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I bought second bracket and rivets, paid almost 8 pounds
When I replaced my igniter I used 2 cable ties through each hole.
Works great and they came straight out of my toolbox.
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Ghetto, but I like it!
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I used a flat blade screwdriver and pried the old one apart. Slip the blade between the bracket and the CDI and twist. Tap the bracket straight with a hammer(if needed). Reused it with no problems. Cost 11 curse words and some elbow grease. 
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So Brian, Sounds like your feeling a seat of the pants improvement in rideability and power with the procomm unit installed on your 03? I would consider picking up one myself if I thought it would make a noticeable difference on an 865 motor. BTW, I'm going to be down in Lauderdale at the end of next week. Let me know if you want to grab a beer or anything.
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Hey Moe (in my best 'Curly' voice), can you tell me the p.n. & where you got it? I'm gonna be needin' one. Thanx bud.
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Bike Bandit. with 10% AMA membership discount.
The bandit is rather slow. You could call Second Wind Triumph and talk to Joe Liebke. 603-598-2697
Bike Bandits info:
RIVET BARBED,12.7 - 20.6MM
5576208-001 | Triumph 2002 AMERICA IGNITION SYSTEM
BRACKET,IGNITER
5567479-001 | Triumph 2002 AMERICA IGNITION SYSTEM
TRIUMPH OEM PART NUMBERS:
If you order from a dealer.
BRACKET,IGNITER T1291060
RIVET BARBED,12.7 - 20.6MM T3300006
Wherever you order from remember that the order is place and shipped from Newnan Ga. Than it is shipped to you from the place that ordered it for you. That's why triumpet parts take a while to get to you. Dealerships place Newnan orders routinely. Bike bandit...how often? Who knows...
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Vista champion but, I've got Vista Ultimate on my Sony VAIO and had no problems with the driver or software that came with my Procom CDI. Its the same version that is on the web site. As long as you install your driver software before you connect you CDI to the computer you should have no problems with Vista. Maybe you got some other issues with your system.
I downloaded the map from procom's site and used it and it works great. Vast improvement over the stock setup. The default rev limit is 9000 so I'll probalbly cut it back to 8500.
I was hoping you guys might have some insight on timing and spark advance ranges. Anybody?
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Got my igniter bracket and barbs today. Thought I was ordered some spare barbs. Turns out these interlock onto each other. So four is really two attachment points.
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Hey Doc, Thanks for the update on Vista running the software.
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Not a problem. I've been doin computers, mainly PCs since 91. Mostly home and small network stuff. But am happy to think through any issue you may be having with your computers.
Any thoughts on timing? Or, how many degrees before top dead center is a good place to start? And, at what RPM should the advance kick in? However, with the flexibilty of the programmable CDI, we should be able to plot a curve that would reflect each 100RPM or so. what do you engine gurus think?
Anyway, I'm studying some theory and trying to remember what I used to do to my old 73 bonny a few years back. I think with the brain trust on this site we should be able to come up with some really nice maps to share with each other.
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