To answer borgcymru's question about the middle bike on this page (red tank). Those are custom Harley drag bars w/4 1/2" rise--25" width....had to drill out top tree for these bars to fit, Harley bobber grips, so had to cut out control for the throttle grip to fit, plus readjust cables because the grip is thicker....add not using fender struts, cut of that part of frame and will be cutting of the upper shock mounts as well.

.....I know the key to a well rounded education is, EXPERIMENTATION......