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Off Road Riding in Riverside - Bad News
#36506 02/02/2006 4:34 PM
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http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/2006/Riverside.asp

Riverside County officials in California consider even more drastic restrictions on off-road riding

After more than a year of effort by the AMA, off-road motorcyclists including former Supercross Champ Jeremy McGrath, and other motorcycling organizations, it looked like a compromise had been reached with officials in Riverside County, California, that would have been fair to the county's 47,000 dirt riders, as well as non-riding residents concerned about sound issues.

Instead, at its most recent meeting, the Riverside County Board of Supervisors raised the possibility of new and even more drastic restrictions on off-road riding, including the possibility of a complete ban on off-road riding in "residential areas" and onerous permit fees for people who wanted to ride on their own land.

The Board of Supervisors' attitude surprised and dismayed AMA officials and other motorcyclists who have worked diligently with the Riverside County Planning Commission to reach a fair compromise.

"We are profoundly disappointed by the inconsistent manner in which the Riverside County Board of Supervisors has initially handled the recommendations from the Riverside County Planning Commission," said Edward Moreland, AMA vice president for government affairs. "The AMA and the riding community have worked in good faith for over a year with the Planning Commission to arrive at a compromise that balances personal property issues with the need for reasonable levels of quiet."

Instead of accepting the Planning Commission proposal, the Board of Supervisors discussed other options at its latest meeting, including the ban on riding in residential areas and expensive permits. Then the Board postponed voting on the issue for another two months.

As a result, a controversy that most motorcyclists thought was near an end is now up for debate again.

"I was genuinely shocked by the comments of the Supervisors,” said Meg Grossglass of the Off-Road Business Association, one of the groups working with the AMA on this issue. “I don’t understand what would have prompted the Supervisors to reject the Planning Commission's recommendations and to instead take such a discriminatory stance against people who choose to use off-highway vehicles on their own property."

Similar frustration was expressed by local resident Jack McGrath, father of AMA Supercross legend Jeremy McGrath.

"I pay property tax in this county on several properties and I am outraged that some Supervisors want to tell me that I can’t use my property for what it was purchased for, even though I comply with the current sound limits in the county and have complied with all existing county ordinances," said McGrath.

The issue is bigger than one county in California, for a couple of reasons. First, if officials succeed in trampling motorcyclists' rights in a county that is virtually the center of the motocross industry, then riders in other locations with less clout could be in even greater danger. And second, because of the huge size of Riverside County (second-largest in California and larger than some states), other jurisdictions around the country could look to the Riverside ordinances as models for restricting off-road riding, if the efforts of the anti-motorcycling factions are successful.

AMA officials will continue to work with local motorcyclists and the industry to protect the rights of motorcyclists in Riverside County and around the country.

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Soren #36507 02/03/2006 2:11 AM
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What a crock.

I am truly getting sick of all this crap.


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Re: Off Road Riding in Riverside - Bad News
Deon #36508 02/03/2006 8:48 AM
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Good news folts, they are working on an offroad part for ATVs, bikes, 4X4 etc in New Hampshire. There's one in PA called Paragon. Huge place. I realize not all states have large areas like that, and furthermore, not everyone wants to trailer their bikes and PAY to get to ride. Great thing about a street bike is you can go out for a 20 min spin after work and it's no big deal, ya know? I hear ya tho Grump, it is annoying... the more restrictions they place on this sorta thing, the more devious people will get in finding places to ride.


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Re: Off Road Riding in Riverside - Bad News
bennybmn #36509 02/03/2006 1:31 PM
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The absolute worst part is that it isnt really about restricting public land. It isnt even really about neighbors complaing about noise (which is what supposedly started this one). It is all about communist goverment control of private property and everything else in our lives.

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bennybmn #36510 02/03/2006 1:32 PM
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It's the government telling people what they can and can't do on their own property that really frosts my shorts. I could understand if you had a 1 acre lot in the middle of a residential area, but this is ridiculous.
And those ATV parks? Once you corral and organize and charge a fee it just ain't fun no more.


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Deon #36511 02/18/2006 10:49 PM
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Why Californians keep voting for those crazy leftists is beyond me. Some disapointed (angered?) Calis are moving over here to Arizona.

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Soren #36512 03/16/2006 4:08 PM
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I've been trying hard to stay out of this, but it has got the better of me.
For over 20 years that I know of, there has been a problem with some offroad riders going into closed areas. They have been tearing up habitats of endangered criters, causing erosion, damaging established trails by riding over the side where the berm is likely to be washed out because of their tracks, vandalizing historic sites, public and privately owned structures, etc.
It's simply a case of the kid being allowed to tease the dragon till everyone gets burnt.


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Greybeard #36513 03/20/2006 7:29 AM
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Quote:

They have been tearing up habitats of endangered criters, causing erosion, damaging established trails by riding over the side where the berm is likely to be washed out because of their tracks,




I don't know about the California noise issue here, but I remember in the Needles District of Canyonlands National Park in a the late 70's early 80's, there was an occassional problem with dirt bikers. The District I was in had 50-60 miles of backcountry 4WD roads (trails). It was a favorite destination for dirt bikes, I'd often meet groups of 10-20. Like anything else, the vast majority were respectful of the desert about not going cross-country & not tearing things up. Of the minority, most just needed a friendly reminder, and a memorable minority felt it was their right to do as they pleased. Something to do with paying taxes? After all these years, the one I remember was an attorney from Salt Lake City who threatened to have my job, for doing my job. He loudly let me know in front of his son & companions who he was and who I wasn't. Now I already know I'm not much, but it's a bummer when a complete stranger has to remind you of the fact. No offense to the attorneys on this board, some of my best friends work in the legal profession.

A cool benefit of that particular job was I got to creep and crawl over miles of slickrock and red rock canyon in a 4WD. Dang, time to dig out the photo album.

JH


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Greybeard #36514 04/18/2006 7:38 AM
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It don't sound to me like they're talking about kids going into closed areas, it sounds like left wing big brother again trying to tell people what they can do on their own property. I'm glad I live 3000 miles from the 'zealots' running Cal. "I won't be back"


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