The reality is, tho... had HD given Buell the VROD lump to work with they would have done two things that would have hurt their own business... A) made VRODs less desirable (which isn't very difficult)and B) made Buell infinitely more successful. having ridden a Night Rod Special I can tell you.. if someone else put that beautiful motor in a bike that could actually handle, HD would never have sold another one. You could paint a flag on the tank and given away $5k worth of leather and not been able to move one more VROD. It was a wonderful (half Porsche) motor in a horribly inadequate chassis. But its like I told a friend at work that owns a Harley... they don't build bikes anymore. When you build something, you DEVELOP it, and Harley hasn't done any motorcycle development since the Hydra-Glide debuted the hydraulic fork arrangement in what... the late 50s? Since then the only thing they've developed is the image.. clothing, logos.... oh, and those little rubber pucks they put between the motor and frame to keep from vibrating ppl off the bike. For f%&k sake, this is the company that thought it would be cool to flip a shock around the wrong way (thereby almost negating it's effect) just to make the frame LOOK almost like a rigid.