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Attached is a link i saw on the KLR650.net forum earlier today. It is a very graphic and disgusting link about what happens when you try to clean a chain while the chain is moving. Suffice to say this fellow permanently lost part of his digits. I am sharing this not to try to gross people out or to rag on this guy but because apparently some people do think cleaning a chain this way is a quick and or good/effective way to do things. If you are squeamish at all please do not look. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=242261
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All I can say is...wow. I never would have thought to do that.
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Yep, that's gonna leave a mark!
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Very rarely I run my bike in gear to OIL the chain but never to clean it!  1st runner up for the 2009 Darwin awards?? 
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1st runner up for the 2009 Darwin awards??
No, that winner was just outside St. Louis this week showing his girlfriend how the safety on his guns work. Of course you put it to your head and pull the trigger when the safety is on, doesn't everyone? Oh yeah, on the third gun, the safety was off.  Alcohol was involved, and witnesses were present. Sorry I'm 
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Lucky it wasn't his pony tail.
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Man that is nasty. One reason I want to convert an America to a Belt Drive.
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can you imagine doing that and then taking the time to take pix before going to the hospital?
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Reminds me of the time I was checkin by hand to see if my motor was seized and buddy took a screwdriver to the selenoid,it hurt. 
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I work in maintenence,
I take extra care of parts that don't grow back
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my cousin did that with a bicycle and his index finger when we were kids.
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wow, the human species never seize to amaze me.
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And that guy is in training to be a cop and will be carrying a pistol around in public? That is scary.
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I have to admit that I considered doing that when I first started riding, and then thought a second later "nahh I'll probably get sucked into the sprocket or something"... guess I was right. My question is, who is his really good friend taking the photos instead of collecting fingertips and calling the ambulance?
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apparently he took the pics himself with his phone while waiting for the ambulance to arrive.
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Yup, that's permanent. I almost didn't look because I have a slightly shortened index finger on my left hand from a falling hydraulic motor crushing it twenty years ago. Finger mutilations still make me cringe.
One of my coworkers has two fingers gone at the first joint from trying to pull weeds out of his dirt bike chain while it was moving.
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Oh boy, SO many things I want to say about this  Another true story about someone dumber than a sack of rusty doorknobs... A number of years ago, we were building a house. A noob carpenter thought it was a good idea to hold that 2x10 with his leg while cutting it to length. Yep, easy to guess the outcome. I am always amazed that people think that flesh, moving machinery and the destruction of said flesh are somehow disparate.
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The only time (luckily) i've seen didjit/hand carnage was when i was young and saw a guy cut his fingers badly on a large table saw where i was working. He had been on that saw day in and day out trying to catch them up on some work they needed done there. But, he was getting tired and overworked on the same machine. I'm guessing he was getting a bit hypnotized from the repetition.
I can see that, but, gosh, that chain episode was entirely avoidable. I'm sorry it happened for sure.
I've done some stupid stuff, no doubt, and thankfully wasn't harmed too much.
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I have a few other lost digit stories, Phil reminded me of guy I worked with that held plywood up and proceeded to cut across his fingers. That guy hurt himself every day, we used to bet on the time.
Another was when I was a kid , my grandfather took me to a saw mill and the owner was explaining how he had cut 2 fingers off and in doing so cut 2 more off. I remember how calm he was and all he said was d amn it, I did it again.
Neither one was as smart as their tools.
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Jeepers, poor guy...I admire him for posting the pictures of his fingers as a warning and a lesson learnt...
He will have to live with that fro the rest of his life...
Used to work in enginering (Shipyard and engineering works) years ago when I first started working as an apprentice...that really taught me to be extra careful when dealing with machinery and moving parts....stuck with me for life....
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One day a friend/cousin of mine called me up on the phone, oh thirty years back and pretends that he is from some lottery and that I had won something. I recognized his voice and soon the conversation was over. A few minutes later he calls me up in some sort of panic in which I thought was another one of his prank calls. Soon realized that he was in distress and headed over to his place some 5 min. away cross town. As I entered his lane there he stood with a sandwich bag with his thumb in it. Apparently was oiling his chain on the back kick and the rag he used to wipe it off took his hand around severing his thumb off at the knuckle. I think I was just as freaked as he was. I also have lost a right ring finger but did see the pix. Makes me cringe!
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I hate it when that happens
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It's a ****** painful thing, I promise you that. One of the worst pains in my life. My pinky finger on my left hand was cut/crushed off from the bottom of the finger nail up when I was a teenager. The tip of my finger is as hard as a rock under the skin there now. I guess there's no tissue padding, just bone. 
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A few years back at a sugar mill i was working in a bloke was undoing nuts with a air driven rattle gun , the nut got stuck in the socket so he puts his finger in to dislodge it and bumped the trigger and you guested it the nut was threaded onto his finger , not as gruesome but similar sort of silly accident
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Actually, I didn't guess it. I thought you were going to say, instead, that his finger was twisted off or something. Now that WOULD suck.
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Well Ian, I gotta say over the years I've heard AND seen many o' ways a guy can get "all screwed up" at work, but that's a new one on me, dude!!!  (soooo...do ya remember this big "lug"'s name???) 
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It's a ****** painful thing, I promise you that. One of the worst pains in my life. My pinky finger on my left hand was cut/crushed off from the bottom of the finger nail up when I was a teenager. The tip of my finger is as hard as a rock under the skin there now. I guess there's no tissue padding, just bone.
Does that mangled left pinky affect your piano playing when you doing octaves for example?
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Is this Suzuki forum the same site that brought us the timeless classic where the guy put Nitro Sport Drink in his gas tank because he thought it was nitro booster. I think I found another reason I'm glad I bought an America and joined the intelligencia here on this forum. I'm sorry for all you guys that have lost digits. I make a living with my hands and fingers, so I pray this never happens to me 
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yeah, same forum. also, the home of the (pardon my spelling here) YUT-UUUUNNNGHH
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 yes , I saw that guy in that snow video from Oregon in that other thread.....
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And that guy is in training to be a cop and will be carrying a pistol around in public? That is scary.
Hey Fred..... if this guy applies to the OK. H.P. let us know please
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I'm sorry for all you guys that have lost digits. I make a living with my hands and fingers, so I pray this never happens to me
That's just it. You never do know when it's going to happen, it just does. I lost mine using a hand router. I was making a groove length ways in a door for repair at work. After I made the groove I turned the router off and placed it on the floor and as it was winding down I took my hands off the router and my left hand swept across the bit. I took my right ring finger knuckle off. After healing for 3 months it had very limited use so I asked them to take it off. I am still self conscious of it even after 18 years but life going on so I have adapted.
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Alot of the carpenters I work with around here have one or two short finger(s). One of them has a fingernail tatooed on the end of a finger that is only 1" long, and yep its the bird finger. He gets some funny looks with that once in a while
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Well Ian, I gotta say over the years I've heard AND seen many o' ways a guy can get "all screwed up" at work, but that's a new one on me, dude!!!
(soooo...do ya remember this big "lug"'s name???)
Sorry , I never did, I was just a little kid I just remember the visuals....vividly. We were still hauling the logs in my grandfathers 51 Chevy pick up at the time.
I came very close to losing 2 fingers, my left pinky finger and my left middle finger 2 different times. The pinky was when I was using a scroll saw and the wood split and my hand went right into the blade breaking it and cutting it badly, still have that scar. The other was on an old jointer in my grandfathers wood shop. It was an old tool and had no guard over the blades behind the fence. I used to hook my fingers over the fence pinching the wood tightly to it to get a nice edge. Well my middle finger was hanging too low once and I took the tip off. I looked at it and it didn't bleed for a few seconds and really didn't hurt at that point because the blades were so sharp and took it off so fast. The blade went in just under the nail and cut back and down, I must have jerked back just in time since the piece of finger was still partly attached so I washed it and taped it back together with bandages like I always do when I get hurt even to this day. Doctor shmockter who needs 'em.  but anyway I got lucky and there must have still been some blood flow since most of it healed back on and only a small part died that I cut away later. No infection or anything either. Did the same with my pinky, taped it to a popsickle stick. I guess it was part of growing up on the farm.
My cousin John cut his pointer finger off when we were kids oiling his bicycle chain but it was pure stupidity and he will even tell you that too. The bike was upside down so he could turn the pedals to move the chain and oil it. Well as many kids do he got it going really fast like that and then unlike most kids stuck his finger in the spokes to try and stop it.
I also got my fingers caught in my moms Sunbeam electric mixer when I was a kid. She walked away for more ingredients and I thought I would taste the batter and stuck my fingers in too far. The part that hurt the most about that one was trying to get the beaters out of the mixer to release my fingers. Every time she pushed the release it forced the beaters tighter on my fingers.
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Actually Ian, I was talkin' to the other Ian, "boof" Down Under, and my references of "a guy gettin' all screwed up at work", and my "what was the big 'lug's' name", was meant as a rejoiner to Ian's(the Ian Down Under, "boof", once again) story about his coworker accidentally spinnin' a nut onto his finger with a pneumatic driver! (ya see folks, THIS is always the problem with us folks who have these very common names...yep, unlike those rare Johns, Joes and Jims out there, there's always so many of us Ians and Dwights that whereever we go it always gets soooooo darn confusing for us to know who anybody is really talkin' to...RIGHT Ian?!..I'm talkin' to YOU Ian...the one back there in Pennsylvania THIS time!!!) AND BTW Ian..in PENNSYLVANIA, once again...I really enjoyed reading those stories of your past narrow escapes, ESPECIALLY the last one involving your mom's Sunbeam mixer!!! 
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Good stories Ian... good thing we're born with lotsa fingers, eh? Still got all mine (well, one got shortened on the jointer just like you) so I have lots to be grateful for. Yup... still got 12 fingers and 12 toes.
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It's a ****** painful thing, I promise you that. One of the worst pains in my life. My pinky finger on my left hand was cut/crushed off from the bottom of the finger nail up when I was a teenager. The tip of my finger is as hard as a rock under the skin there now. I guess there's no tissue padding, just bone.
Does that mangled left pinky affect your piano playing when you doing octaves for example?
Wow, you guys got busy on this thread this evening. Sorry, I missed out on the fun. Anyway to answer your question. Nope, not one bit. In fact, the reason I was out earlier this evening is I had a practice session with two other pianists(3 with me), 2 accoustics, 1 percussionist, and a fine lady singer for a nicely paid gig coming up here in a couple days. All the digits work fine, my pinky is just a little shorter than it should be.
So whats this story I hear about you and a planer? You got a short digit too?
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So whats this story I hear about you and a planer? You got a short digit too?
Not so as you'd notice. Wow... nice ensemble you got goin' there. Lady singer... nice! Just forming a new band now and on the hunt for one of 'em lady likes. Wish we lived closer so we could do some of that music together. Have fun at the gig!!!
Okay everyone, we can all get back to 'How Not to Clean....'
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AND BTW Ian..in PENNSYLVANIA, once again...I really enjoyed reading those stories of your past narrow escapes, ESPECIALLY the last one involving your mom's Sunbeam mixer!!!
Truth is, as you say, I am not used to there being more than 1 Ian where ever I am. I should have caught the "big lug" bit but didn't.
I laugh at my mixer episode too, pretty stupid but kids will be kids.
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Post #2 in the attachment pretty much sums it up.
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