hey bedouin thanx for all the info. i know there are a lot of handling problems with the springer vs. what we have now. i just wasent ssure if there as ssome sort of advance in the technology. thanx for the info and no prob about the long pose haha appreciate all the info and i am sure others got something out of it also. thanx.

Frank

(Former)05 BA tbike pipes, ai removed, Freak, mikuni hsr 42's, 904, ported/polished head, 1mm oversized valves NOW-2010 silver and black tbird