gotcha,but harley has the same problem,their sportster/entry level range sucks.that's one of the many reasons i love my speedmaster,it's priced in the same range as the sportsters/650-750 range jap bikes but you get so much more for your money.i'm 6ft tall and the sportster is just to small dimension wise for me,and yes i have rode them.unlike my speedmaster which is comfortable as heck because dimension wise it's a bigger bike.harley would also be able to steal buyers from the japanese if they would just improve thier sportster range.oh and that Vegas 8 ball looks awesome!i would definitely take that over anything in the softail or dyna range,but for $13,000 i would rather have a t-bird.if victory came up with something like the vegas in a 800cc-1000cc range that sold in the $8,000-$9,000 range they would definetly have a winner

Last edited by jake13; 07/21/2009 3:18 PM.