I keeps citing the nice build quality of the HD's. Theres no doubt about it. Unlike my speedy for example, every thing down to the tiniest washer is chromed or stainless or otherwise just not cheap in any respect. Paint is utterly flawless where as my speedy in the right light, you can see paint flaws that are not acceptable IMO. Nothing horrific, and it can't be seen most of the time. But still. Triumphs just aren't nearly as detailed an flawless. But i'd not trade for any HD. You can have the same build quality as a HD too if you don't mind spending mucho $ on accessories and chrome bits and whatever else it takes.