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yes harley has become a commodity,and their success over the last 10 years has unfortunately been a fad.harley has replaced the corvette as the mid-life crisis purchase of choice.i remember up until about eight years ago you had to be on a waiting list to buy a new harley,now every stealership is full of them.their true value is reflected in thier resale value,you used to be able to sell one for the entire amoumt you had in it and then some,now the market is so flooded with used bikes it's ridiculous.and no it's not the economy,it's over production.there are just to many suburban weekend bikers out there.i ride my speedie everywhere,work,school,the gym,****** i bought a backpack so i could ride to the grocery store.and ditto on the bad expieriences with the 30-40 year old riders,i get annoyed at their snubs because i chose to ride a bike that doesn't make me blend in with the harley crowd,besides why would i wanna spend all that money on those expensive a$$ black and orange clothes!

I have rode and owned Harleys since I was 16, I am now 48. And I agree with most of what has been said here. It was 10 years ago that you had to get on a waiting list. That is when I bought what will be my last new Harley. In 2000 they went to the twin cam 88, a massed produce engine that they build in half the time of a old evo. Most of the weekend barhopping warriors that is riding in the last 10 years don't wave,but worse than that I have stop to help several biker broke down, just to hear the same story. "Their must have been a dozen bikes went by and your the first to stop". You never leave one of us sitting on the side of the road, no matter what they ride.So waving is just a minor thing from these people trying to make a fashion statement. And beside as a Harley and a Triumph rider, I find it is the gold-wing that don't wave back