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Well, it did it again. Crusing down the highway and just Died. Same thing as all the other times "like hitting the kill switch". Only thing this time it didn't fire back up again... just solid dead. Called the dealer and he came and picked it up from the side of the road (a LONG trip for him... but he's that kind of stand up guy). Said not to worry they would fix it (again). He is as frustrated as I am with it. I swear boys, as much as I love my bike I'm absolutely at the end of my rope with it. 
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It sounds like it is time to contact Peter Carleo at Triumph HQ. He was pretty helpful in the past with similar problems. As much as you like your dealer, it might be time to let someone else take a crack at it (before you throw in the towel). Here's info from a local RAT thread from '07 that dealt with a problem at Clinton (MD). At the time, Clinton was the RAT sponsor but they eventually went independant, due to these type of issues. Thats two years ago, but I wouldn't go in Clinton's direction. hey shaun. i was going to post my nightmare of an experience with clinton as a response to your post but i don't want to hear anyone try and defend that place. they had my bike 8 weeks to repair a factory defect(my head was not aligned on my '04 bonneville when it was built). i'll spare you the details but i went around and around with them. the only way to get results is to get someone to light a fire under their asses. peter carleo is the guy at triumph HQ in the states that deals with customer service. his phone number is 678/854.2010. he was a great help to me when my bike was at clinton. he helped me sort through their ******. as far as recommending a better dealer, i can't. i bought my bike at the winchester dealer and they have not done anything right. the last time they replaced a seal on the bike the guy forgot to retighten a bolt that controlled my clutch. i have heard good things about pete's in b-more although i've never been there. a friend of mine bought his america there and got excellent service after he bribed the mechanic with a bottle of southern comfort. Quote:
Well, it did it again. Crusing down the highway and just Died. Same thing as all the other times "like hitting the kill switch". Only thing this time it didn't fire back up again... just solid dead. Called the dealer and he came and picked it up from the side of the road (a LONG trip for him... but he's that kind of stand up guy). Said not to worry they would fix it (again). He is as frustrated as I am with it.
I swear boys, as much as I love my bike I'm absolutely at the end of my rope with it.
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Al, it is unfortunate that you are right about this. You shouldn't have to call anybody. It should be fixed. Its not fixed because the same people that work for Peter are not providing adequate information or authorization to properly fix this bike.
PETER! via his employees should be saying " Take the coils, pickups, sensors, and CDI out of that bike. Replace them all right now". THAT IS WHAT THEY SHOULD BE SAYING!
The current company doesn't need Lucas to screw then up, they can do all on their own.
Good luck, hope they get it figured out this time.
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Let's hope that it stayed dead on the trip to the shop so they can sort it all out. There is nothing harder than finding a problem that comes and goes.
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Don,
Don't give up yet. Jeff at CLinton is a really good diagnostic mechanic. Let me talk to him.
And Al, I know some of mechanics up at Clinton very well. They are the only ones I allow to touch my bike when I can’t do something myself. They have fixed numerous problems on bikes that could not be fixed at Pete’s in Balt, or from the dealership in Winchester.
However the dealship has had some issues in the past which you will find at any dealership.
As far as the local RAT club, the head (Aaron) still uses Clinton for repairs on his bike and has been very pleased with them.
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Good deal Fred. That was over two years ago, I'm sure things change in that amount of time. Hopefully they can help. Quote:
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Don't give up yet. Jeff at CLinton is a really good diagnostic mechanic. Let me talk to him.
And Al, I know some of mechanics up at Clinton very well. They are the only ones I allow to touch my bike when I can’t do something myself. They have fixed numerous problems on bikes that could not be fixed at Pete’s in Balt, or from the dealership in Winchester.
However the dealship has had some issues in the past which you will find at any dealership.
As far as the local RAT club, the head (Aaron) still uses Clinton for repairs on his bike and has been very pleased with them.
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OK Don, looking at your history on Moe's post I see they "tested" the igniter but I don't see that it has ever been replaced.
There is no test for an intermittent problem other than seeing if a different one fixes it.
These bikes have had igniter issues.
Many igniter issues.
They ought to be doing a recall replacement of igniters, there have been so many failures.
Make 'em change it.
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Well, it did it again. Crusing down the highway and just Died. Same thing as all the other times "like hitting the kill switch". Only thing this time it didn't fire back up again... just solid dead.
Please have them rule out the side stand switch this time.
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It is so very sad that all these good suggestions come from a forum of his friends but the Dealer and Atlanta just keep putting this back on the road. There comes a point in customer service where you have to error in favor of the customer. If its electrical they need to take it outta this bike and replace it. I have heard so many stories about folks having to call or email Peter etc. and beg dealers to do whats right. Ongoing warranty always goes through Georgia. Vicariously it goes through Peter. If he is not involved already on something like this then the dealer is simply useless, not good, and not fair. This bike should not be broken at this point. It is not acceptable under any scenario. I will begin relating this story along with many others to perspective buyers. Electrical issues and Triumph has simply gone out of control. This is not 1967, its not to be accepted and tolerated in the 21st century.  I hope it gets worked out soon.
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did any one read about my America dieing and all I needed to do was turn the key off then back on. It stares right up. I tryed everything simple, then took the gas tank off. Some other bike expert said it sounded like ground problems. Well I think in a way it was. I unpluged and pluged the ingniter a few times. And I did find one coil wire not seated so pushed it in tight. I real think one of the inginter plug had a bad connection. I've got 500 mile+ and now dieing any more so far, befor not 3 milesRudy
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OK... update (again). Going to pick it up in the morning. Tech said something with the battery was causing it to short out the ignition. So they replaced the battery. Needless to say, I have my doubts... but we shall see.
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I have a problem with a simple battery change fixing the problem. There is no way that could cause your bike to completely quit unless the power lead was shorting out against the frame or the battery completely grounded out internally which could have caused a small fire. You wouldn't have been able to start the bike or use any other accessory like you did in your other posts after it quit. Don't drive it too far from the dealer. 
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Greg, this time it didn't start back up. I was stone cold dead. The lights would come on (headlight, idiot lights on the console, etc...) but it wouldn't crank. When you hit the ignition button it wouldn't even click (like it would if it was a dead battery). I am very skeptical that it is "fixed"...
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Did they bypass the kick stand switch? You have to at least try that simple solution before you give up.
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Don, trade it in on a T-bird or something. I don't think I would ever trust it for anything less than going to bike night.
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Bring it back tell them to replace the CDI, coil pickup, coils, and spark plugs. If there're not willing to do that under warrantee tell them to keep the bike & you're calling Georgia.
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The lights would come on (headlight, idiot lights on the console, etc...) but it wouldn't crank. When you hit the ignition button it wouldn't even click (like it would if it was a dead battery). I am very skeptical that it is "fixed"...
If the battery had enough power to light up the headlight, it had enough power to turn on a relay/solenoid. There is still a gremlin in your system that is staring everyone in the face. For the bike to quit and loose starter/ignition power, I don't think it is CDI related. They have to look at the combination starter/run circuits. Ignition switch, kickstand switch, maybe the kill switch, fuse box connections, etc.
If they changed the battery, I really hope they were right. Too bad they don't give you a loaner and one of their techs drive it for a week. 
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Too bad they don't give you a loaner and one of their techs drive it for a week.
is the best idea yet. I had a problem with the 06 and it took one of the techs to ride it to and from work to find the problem. (it ended up being the tip over valve thing........  )
But at least they might see the gremlin in action.
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Picked it up this morning. They did replace the battery (said it had a short in it). I rode it all day, put several hundred miles on it (combination highway and back roads). So far it's running normally... however, I fully expect it to break down again from some other electrical related issue (which hasn't been found yet). Saxtron is right, I just don't have any confidence in riding this bike any further than my wife can come and pick me up in the truck.
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the battery didn't fix it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!POSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
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You need a lawyer or a good trade on it for another bike.
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Yeah, it's quite obvious that your tech is incompetent.
Or the service dept. is unwilling to fix it for whatever reason.
Sue 'em.
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The lights would come on (headlight, idiot lights on the console, etc...) but it wouldn't crank. When you hit the ignition button it wouldn't even click
Okay, this makes it pretty obvious that it isn't a battery issue but a "kill" circuit issue. It's also obvious you have a lame shop tech(s). Bypass the danged side stand switch, then bypass the kill switch and see which one is defective. Then take the stealership to small claims court and get your money back.
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This is ongoing it is on warranty I believe. Dump the bike. Get rid of this thing for your own piece of mind. Trade it for a very good trade in number. Your dealer can't dare tell you its defective can he? Let us start an email campaign with your dealer and Peter on this thing. We can ship him in a few days a few hundred emails. These threads seem to be the norm rather that the exception. Personally, I will not be buying another Triumph. I will be advising all I meet they have bad electrics and not to buy them as Triumph won't stand behind them. This is just a horrible nightmare nobody should have to deal with. Just let me know who to yell at, I would be happy to help.
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Ok, after I've had a night (and plenty of liquid sedative) to reflect... here were the symptoms. Day before yesterday when I picked it up it ran fine. Yesterday morning when I started it up and headed out it seemed to be slightly missing (mild sputtering). It cleared up after it warmed up. Rode with a buddy for most of the day (running fine). Stopped for lunch and a brew, so it sat and cooled off for about a hour and a half. Fired it up after lunch, headed back towards home. About the exact spot where it left me on the side of the road last weekend it starts missing again (like it's running out of fuel... except it has 3/4 of a tank of gas). The it starts the backfiring crap again and starts loosing rpm (twist the throttle nothing, hit reserve nothing, unscrew gas cap nothing, reach under tank and make sure wires are in coils nothing, push wires down on plugs nothing, make sure caps are seated on carbs and intake manifolds nothing). Coast to a stop on the side of the road it's still running but nothing more than a idle. Twist the throttle and it won't rev up, I swear it seemed like it was only hitting on one cylinder anyway (the right side). After shutting it off and repeating all the previously mentioned steps again I start it back up and it seems to run fine again. Anyway, it does this all the rest of the way back home (thankfully I actually made it back home this time). I went out and started it up this morning and let it run for a while and it's still "sputtering".
Incidentally, is it normal for the control lines and vent hose to be hanging below the coils and sitting on top of the cam cover?
Me, the dealer and Atlanta are going to be having a very serious conversation this week. I'll keep yall posted.
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That's a good description; it's not the kill circuit. I'm guessing ignitor failure is in your future but did the tech actually check the sensor gap under the alternator cover? If that's set properly, theres a heat sensitive issue with the sensor that is gender wide in the Triumph line affecting retro bikes and triples alike.
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it seemed like it was only hitting on one cylinder anyway (the right side)
It's the igniter. Like I said, there is no test for an intermittent problem. So if they say it tests OK, they're full of sh!t.
Make them replace it.
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sounds like the igniter. make note of which cylinder is dropped, swap the coils and leads from one side to the other.
If the problem stays with the same side cylinder then it is the igniter. I went though the above and more to isolate it. The problem started out very intermitant and got more and more frequent. Triumph replaced the igniter under warrantee even though it was a ways past the 2 years. I have to say they do stand behind their bikes.
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Don, You completely described in detail the igniter Failure that I had on my bike a couple of years ago. It is such an intermittent problem at first you cannot pin it down but I finally got a good CDI and put it on and it solved the problem.
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Howdy y'all. So my Speedy's in the shop (again!) with what appears to be -- you guessed it -- igniter/CDI issues. Research with the nice folks at Brit Customs says that a new OEM replacement will be... wait for it... around $600. Given that these things are flakey, I'd rather get a new one instead of used (used is STILL $200-300 on eBay), but... apparently Procom makes an aftermarket replacement for the 360-deg engines, but not ours... I think. Anybody have any better info? Will the Procom one work, or am I stuck getting a $600 part that's known for being unreliable? --Jaeger P.S. -- If anybody ever gives me any more lip about "it's not a real Triumph" I will truly loose my sh*t. The ghost of Lucas lives!
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Considering that the first time you start the bike with a new igniter, it is no longer new, i would say you'd be better off buying TWO used ones for the price of one new one. At least then you'd have a spare.
BTW, Procom doesn't make a unit for our bikes, as far as i know.
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All, I finally had the chance to talk with Peter Carleo at Triumph USA down in Atlanta. He was unaware of my issues and said he wouldn't be the right person to speak with anyway... it would be one of the resident techs. Needless to say I still took the opportunity to discuss my problems with him anyway (what the heck, I had him on the phone).
Before I relate the conversation let me say that I'm not throwing Peter under the bus. I'm just repeating the conversation and folks can draw their own conclusions.
I went over the problems with cutting out, backfiring etc. He pulled up my records and saw where they had replaced the coil under warranty (even though the bike was beyond the warranty period). That was the last record he had in the system... he didn't have any record of the pick up sensor on the crank being replaced. I said that was great but that the problems started when the bike was under warranty it just took the problem that long to manifest and finally die (and it didn't fix the problem anyway... neither did the pick up sensor or the battery) or for that matter anything else they had done.
I then identified myself as a member of this forum and explained that the general consensus was that the CDI was faulty and that they needed to replace it. Peter then proceeded to inform me that I shouldn't place any stock in what I read or find online. I said excuse me, I'm talking about OWNERS who have had similiar problems. He then stated that anyone who said that coils and CDI's had intermittent problems didn't know what the were talking about. According to their warranty records and engineers they either worked or they didn't. I repeated that I was relating information from OWNERS... more particularly owners from this site (whom I regard as the definitive EXPERTS on these bikes). He basically reitterated that owners didn't know what they were talking about. He then asked what my mileage was, I said 25k. His response was "well it seems pretty reliable to me". I said yeah, it runs great when it isn't dead.
It then became apparent to me that I wasn't getting anywhere with him so I thanked him for his time and hung up. I'm still waiting to hear from the dealer if he has had any luck at diagnosing and fixing the problem (again).
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For some reason, I thought you were still under warranty. Peters response isn't exactly confidence inspiring.
Maybe the dealer would at least order a CDI and try it out? With all the trouble you've had, it seems like it would be the least they could do for you.
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They don't want to pay for one. As for Peter, well he won't admit to the prevalence of igniter failures as they would probably have to do a recall. I'm starting to agree with Ron as to my next bike. Maybe one of these: 
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I'm starting to agree with Ron as to my next bike.
Maybe one of these:
I was looking at replacing my HD with a Victory but they haven't been forthcoming about their third gear failures placing them in the same denial class as Triumph's ignitor problems. Why? I just can't seem to wrap my head around small population manufacturers not trying to get ahead of the curve by banking on customer satisfaction.
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I'm starting to agree with Ron as to my next bike.
Maybe one of these:
You won't be disappointed if you do. Loud clanky transmission noise from the primary gear vs. no primary chain. Thats my only complaint.
03 was the last of the 2nd and 3rd gear issues on them.
My Kingpin, listed as black in my sig, just carves up asphalt. 85HP with 106lbs of torque. Twist its tail and get ready to hold on ;-)
It is a purpose built highway bike. You are in 6th gear maybe around 75MPH.
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There is only one reason I would ever sell my Triumph. This members issues are that reason. How on earth do you feel comfortable taking on a long ride on this thing. Its not worth owning, my friend. If It were a car you would have already dumped it. Get another bike.
I also thought it was on warranty. Don't listen to Peter on that one. If it started on warranty and isn't fixed its still on warranty. Find a lemon lawyer if you must.
I try to aggravate one person a day. Today may be your day.
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Joined: May 2007
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Worn Saddle
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Worn Saddle
Joined: May 2007
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03 was the last of the 2nd and 3rd gear issues on them.
Hopefully you've attended to the rear axle problem that plague the '06 models by now. Wouldn't want that sucker to crack under speed...
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
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Joined: Jan 2005
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Check Pants
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Check Pants
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I've ridden a few, but that full-fendered look just doesn't grab me. I looked at the Kingpin Tour last week in a NJ dealer (DeSimmone- Trump/Ducati/BMW/Victory). Those hard bags wouldn't even hold my jacket with the liner/armor in place, useless. They were giving away '08 leftover Visions for $15k. They had a ton of used Victory's on the floor. Quote:
They don't want to pay for one.
As for Peter, well he won't admit to the prevalence of igniter failures as they would probably have to do a recall.
I'm starting to agree with Ron as to my next bike.
Maybe one of these:
Al
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Joined: Jan 2006
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Monkey Butt
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Monkey Butt
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The axles are fine and recalled for about 2000 Kingpin Deluxe models, fixed for free, same as a few electrical issues on the Vision. They also replaced the fuel pumps retainer clips because they thought too many were breaking.
Ya see, good companies identify problems, track them, and when needed do voluntary recalls to make the product right.
Stuff breaks and you learn from your testers, the customers, in the field. Then you stand behind what is broken. It seems like Triumph does that too on brakes, stalling ect. They sure do stick their heads in the sand on the CDI and coil issues though.
I try to aggravate one person a day. Today may be your day.
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