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I need a rough outline of the steps to follow to get a bike running that has been setting in a garage in Vegas for 15 years. Anyone here ever tried a project like this before?
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Cruiser mag did a write up on this at some point...you might want to search their site.
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Anyone here ever tried a project like this before?
I have and it's not too scary but...
Pull the plugs, squirt oil in the cylinders, and let 'er sit for a couple of days before even considering turning the engine over. Other than that a few basic things to consider...
did it sit with gas in the tank?
were the carbs drained?
is there rust in the tank?
did the owner pump a bit of oil in the cylinders prior to storage?
what kinda bike is it?
water or air cooled?
Yer gonna have varnish in the carbs so you will need to clean them up internally. The tank is a thing to look into. Rust, varnish, water (condensation).
Clean up the fuel system, make sure there is fresh oil in the engine, turn it over manually (kick or push in gear). If the engine turns freely and you got the fuel thing worked out, crank 'er up and see if she fires.
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it's a 78 Honda GL1000. I doubt he did anything other than pull the key out of the ignition. It's my brother in law's and he's got Alzheimers and can't remember much. My sis wants me to fly out there and bring it back to OKC and see if I can get it running and sell it for her.
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Some useful information... point gap is .012 to .016 inch, and dwell is 87.5 to 92.5 degrees. [never adjust gap without adusting timing and dwell, as they all effect one another.] timing is 10 deg. btdc @ 950rpm [idle], and 37.5 deg. btdc @ 2300 to 2600rpm. If you need more info, get a Clymer manual. It can help you tune, maintain, or rebuild your bike. I got this info from here. Thought you might find this helpful.
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pull carbs and degunk by soaking in carb cleaner. Replace all rubber gaskets, boots and such, new tires most likely too, drain gas tank, use one of the cleaning solutions for the tank and get it nice and cleaned out. New Gas lines, maybe new cables, new brake fluid, new oil and filter, new air filter, battery....
Actually sounds like fun. A friend has the same bike and loves his, with over 220k miles on it now.
Best thing it has going for it is that It's a honda, It will probably start with the first push of the button after you get it all ready to try. I had an 82 Honda 900 custom that I traded away (don't know why I ever did that) and ended up buying it back from the guy 4 years later after it just sat in his yard the entire time in all sorts of bad weather. I cleaned the fuels system up and rode it home after about a half hour of work. But had to rip the carbs all apart when I got it home. So even gunked up old Honda carbs will get you home. Worst part was that the custom Corbin seat I had made was trashed.
Good luck, keep us posted on this.
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75 through 77 had a bad habit of letting oil leak past the rings into the left cylinder if on the side stand. If you find it on the side stand and not the center stand you will have some issues for sure on the right cylinder. Meaning make sure you put oil in that right cylinder for a bit before you ever turn it over, it may be dry as a bone. The left will be full of oil.
The GL1000s are not worth much so go slow, don't dive into it with both feet. The gear oil in the shaft should be fine but the front seal is probably gonna leak on you. It may swell back and be kinda okay once you get it wet and spinning again. Forks and shocks should be fine. Tires will be horribly dry-rotted. Brakes will be find but the hoses will be weak.
Honda tanks are pretty good. Slosh it out with alcohol or spirits and see if brown runs out of it. It may be fine. There are numerous tank treatments out there if its a bit rusty. It has a standard pitcock so that is easy to deal with.
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Due to the hot, dry summers here, all rubber parts are probably rotted, even though it was garage kept.
Fortunately parts are available for the old GLs and shouldn't break the bank. Good luck, let me know if you need a hand with it when you get here.
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Thanks for the input fellas. I'm flying out there in a couple of weeks to pick it up and trailer it back to my Dads shop. Wish I'd kept the manual I had when I owned the '77. I will keep you posted and I'm sure I'll need more advice once I find out what shape it's in. ****** I might just buy it from her myself. Thanks again.
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Just for grins and giggles I checked with the Honda dealer about parts availability on Gl 1000'S and the labor for rebuilding the carbs.. $175 per carb plus the price of 4 kits (which they don't sell and can't get) Well.. I ain't gonna get much help there. Just about everythings "not available". I found a great site www.randakks.com and www.nakedgoldwings.com that I think will help a lot. You shoulda seen the blank look on the parts kid's face when I asked him about "points". I started trying to explain but said "go ask your dad". The mechanic said It was a "lost cause" "don't even waste your time".
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the labor for rebuilding the carbs.. $175 per carb plus the price of 4 kits
 Holy crap! I need to change professions...
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another place for OEM parts: Thrifty Rider And: Bike Bandit
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I did one a couple years ago,was prety bad.Pitting in cylinders,had to replace the cases.Valve seals were shot,calipers were seized,rad leaked,cables were toast.Was fun tho.Good luck and don't pay to much for it.
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Just about everythings "not available".
See, that's why I don't care for far east bikes. You can get enough parts to get a Speedtwin up and running, you can get enough parts to build a new '36 Knucklehead, but if you have a product of Japan.inc over 5 years old, you are just SOL.
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Just about everythings "not available".
See, that's why I don't care for far east bikes. You can get enough parts to get a Speedtwin up and running, you can get enough parts to build a new '36 Knucklehead, but if you have a product of Japan.inc over 5 years old, you are just SOL.
I agree, I have a Suzuki GT750 that would run with a good tune up but I bet it would be hard to get the points. I should have sold it back when everyone seemed to want it. Now it just sits buried in my shed.
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Just about everythings "not available".
See, that's why I don't care for far east bikes. You can get enough parts to get a Speedtwin up and running, you can get enough parts to build a new '36 Knucklehead, but if you have a product of Japan.inc over 5 years old, you are just SOL.
I agree, I have a Suzuki GT750 that would run with a good tune up but I bet it would be hard to get the points. I should have sold it back when everyone seemed to want it. Now it just sits buried in my shed.
Nonsense.
The dealers won't have it but the aftermarket is where you'll find whatever you need. Check out the links I posted above and tell me what you can't find.
There may be some bikes that were produced in too few numbers to make carrying parts practical but for anything else, no problem.
Ian, you didn't say what year but for a 1972 from Thrifty Rider:
SKU: 33170-31010
POINT ASSY 2 $26.70 Add to Cart
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I don't think the points in those changes from year to year, mine is a 76. I wasn't looking to get it running but just figured the points would be tough to find in the age of electronic ignition and given the age,2 stroke, and probably not many of em left.
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I wasn't looking to get it running
Too bad. I always loved the sound of those things winding up.
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Just about everythings "not available".
See, that's why I don't care for far east bikes. You can get enough parts to get a Speedtwin up and running, you can get enough parts to build a new '36 Knucklehead, but if you have a product of Japan.inc over 5 years old, you are just SOL.
Nonsense.
The dealers won't have it but the aftermarket is where you'll find whatever you need. Check out the links I posted above and tell me what you can't find.
There may be some bikes that were produced in too few numbers to make carrying parts practical but for anything else, no problem.
Bills right. There's a Goldwing subculture out there that supports an aftermarket parts production/salvage. It's not as convenient as going to the dealer, but in most cases it's way more affordable.
On your CDI problem Bill, I'm having the same problem. Sarts on Right cylinder only sometimes but the left kicks in when you rev it. Then sometimes it starts on both and will run fine as long as you care to ride it, but shut it off to get gas or something and it drops the left cylinder. If I let it set for about 10 minutes everything is fine. I've replaced the coil and checked the pick up coil gap and all the associated connectors so I guess I'll go to the dealer and see if they will warranty the ignition module even tho it's 1 year out of warranty. I just read a post on another forum where the guy went to the dealer and they did just that even though his was 2 years out.
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