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I have a rifle, but was thinking of getting a hand gun. The one I am looking at is the Glock G19 or G19C. Just wondering if anyone else has this gun, and what are the pros and cons of it?
Not really looking for a debate about guns, just some information from anyone that has a Glock.
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Can't beat 'em with a stick. The Bad: They're ugly. They're really ugly. The Good: They're incredibly durable and reliable. Unlike a lot of popular guns (e.g., 1911, Hi-Power) they don't require a gunsmith to make them really sing. There's a ton of aftermarket support. They're well priced compared to their real competition (H&K, Sig, the high-tech toys). It's an excellent choice for a first auto pistol; if it's your first handgun ever, I'd recommend a .357 revolver. If you really want a semi-auto pistol, though, you can't go wrong. They really are just that good. Oh, one thing -- be sure to replace the front sight post with an aftermarket -- they're so cheap and plentiful that the factory barely pins in the stock ones any more. Also, depending on your application, the .40S&W cartridge is "better" than the 9mm for defense applications, and the magazines hold almost as many rounds. Just sayin'.  --Jaeger
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I'm not a Glock fan, sorry. Thsy just don't sit right in my hand, and they really are ugly. May I suggest that you consider a Springfield Armory XD or XDm? I have an XDm 9MM that shoots sweetly, and I have NEVER had a misfeed or misfire in over 1400 rounds down the barrel. I also changed the sights from the originals to a set of Dawson adjustables. The 9MM holds 19 in mag + one in the chamber, but California limits mags to 10 or less rounds.
You might also like the Ruger SR9. I have one of those too, and I like it as much as the XDm, but for different reasons. It comes with adjustable "Heinie" style sights and it's a really nice concealment gun, because of the slim grip.
What will you be using your pistol for, may I ask?
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Would a would be thief think any less of an "ugly" gun when staring down the barrel? Unless you carry a gun as an accessory, like women and purses or something.... 
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Smith and Wesson Sigma is a Glock with a 50% rebate. They shoot all day without a problem. Lately the machine work on the Smith seems to be a bit better. Smith took the Glock, knocked it off, put their name on it then made it better for about 1/2 the cost. Taurus also makes a very nice 9MM. They are no longer a lessor type of weapon. 
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It's an aesthetic thing. When I carry 5 - 10% of the time, it's always concealed anyway, and I never let anyone know I have one on. The full frames ARE a bit tough to conceal in the summer months. I usually go with a little .380 then.
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My GF has a Taurus 24/7 9MM, and she loves it. No problems with it at all, either. Taurus has been putting out some great stuff lately, and their 1911 clone has been getting rave reviews for features and price. I'd like a 1911, but they only hold 7 rounds.
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I'm partial to the M1911-A1. They were designed to be idiot proof, still work after being dropped in a mud puddle and have a lot of stopping power. The Star model PD .45 is smaller, lighter and doesn't have the same safety features, but it's a close second.
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My GF has a Taurus 24/7 9MM, and she loves it. No problems with it at all, either. Taurus has been putting out some great stuff lately, and their 1911 clone has been getting rave reviews for features and price. I'd like a 1911, but they only hold 7 rounds.
I carry a 24/7 in .40 It holds 15+1 rounds. Fantastic gun for the money. 
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For a first handgun, it is hard to go wrong with any of the better name revolvers. I like concealed, bobbed hammers with double action only for a carry gun. Then it is an easy move to the Glocks, I am a big fan, many flavors, sizes and powers availible, but, ugly and very recognizable... Simple, easy to use and no levers, decockers, etc. to confuse you. Point and squeeze.
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Colt Officers Model in 45ACP has been my carry weapon since 1982.
No higher recommendation I can give than that.
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I think my main purpose will be for target practice, and then personal protection. So I am looking for a good all round pistol that I will be happy with for a very long time.
I have looked at the Ruger and Smith & Wesson, and I think both are still made in the US. The Glock I believe is made in Austria. I haven't looked at the Springfield, but will.
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Several options here for you and I have them all. Option 1: a 4 inch Smith and Wesson model 686 in .357 Magnum. This will shoot .38 wadcutter for target, .38 special for more punch and .357 magnum. Essentially you get three guns in one package. Option 2: if you want to carry a hunting sidearm get the 686 in 6 inch. Option 3: If you are looking for high capacity, amazing out of the box accuracy and relatively cheap ammo get the CZ SP-01 9mm. It is my absolute favorite handgun period.
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Note to everyone: Buy all the ammo you can get your hands on now. It is getting harder and harder to find and MUCH more expensive. Check "Cheap as Dirt" and "Ammoman". Search on all the most popular calibers and you will find most out of stock! A friend of mine was in the Sportman Warehouse down in Tallahassee Florida recently and they only had 6 boxes of 12 gauge skeet loads and one box of .270 (and it was almost $30 dollars!!!
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Several options here for you and I have them all. Option 1: a 4 inch Smith and Wesson model 686 in .357 Magnum. This will shoot .38 wadcutter for target, .38 special for more punch and .357 magnum. Essentially you get three guns in one package. Option 2: if you want to carry a hunting sidearm get the 686 in 6 inch. Option 3: If you are looking for high capacity, amazing out of the box accuracy and relatively cheap ammo get the CZ SP-01 9mm. It is my absolute favorite handgun period.
I have many different guns, one of which is a CZ52. I was surprised to find how well it is built for an old handgun. The slide runs on small roller bearings. The first time I shot it from about 20 meters,(one shot) walked up to see where I hit, walked back to same spot and shot again and cut the same hole from my first shot. I was sold. I am going to look into some of their new handguns soon. For what it's worth I am not a Glock fan either.
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I'm not a Glock fan either, nothing about the gun other than I didn't like the feel. I carry a modified S&W model 59 with 14 round clips and 1 in the chamber.
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If possible, shoot a Glock before you buy one. They don't fit my hand properly and therefore my accuracy suffers. I carry the Sprinfield Champion .45. It is the same as the Colt Commander but cheaper. Yeah, it's big and heavy and a pain to conceal sometimes but I know that whatever I shoot WILL fall down.
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I had a similar post on here last November. I ended up purchasing a Walther PPK .380 and am VERY happy with it. I've been to the shooting range several times and have gotten a lot of compliments on it - timeless design, really nice looking, and shoots really well.
I might look at a Walther PPS as my next handgun.
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I never really was a Glock fan until I bought one & then I fell in love. whatever you do decide to buy you need to hurry up & grab what mags & ammo you can still find.
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+ 1 on the XD. Have the .45. Similar in functionality to the Glock only with the addition of a grip safety (ala 1911). 13+1 capacity. Also recently picked up a S&W 10-8 heavy-barreled .38 Special, old cop service revolver, just for something different. Would make a great first handgun if you could find one. Proper .38 loads will do anything you ever need to and are much easier to control than .357. Also the ammo situation sux and it's gonna get worse. Get 'em while you can.
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Just out of curiosity, why the ammo shortage over there?
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+1 on the xd...i prefer the 45 as well....however I own two .357...I have a smith K-frame (by far my favorite but can't conceal) and i have a rossi 1" barrel...The rossi i would stay away from unless you are shooting it in a house for self defense...accuracy past 15 yards is crap...The K frame is a straight shooting gun and i have been able to walk on a target at over 125 yards...I can shoot accuratly up to about 50 yards with it
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Just out of curiosity, why the ammo shortage over there?
Politics.
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I had the same need and went with a Ruger SP101 revolver (4"). It shoots the economical 38 spl as well as .357 for home defense. It's a hoot to shoot and is built like a tank. I also have a Ruger MKII .22 target pistol. The 22 is dirt cheap to shoot. If you get a larger pistol, I also suggest a 22. I just joined my local Izaak Walton League to get in more frequent practice. Quote:
I think my main purpose will be for target practice, and then personal protection. So I am looking for a good all round pistol that I will be happy with for a very long time.
I have looked at the Ruger and Smith & Wesson, and I think both are still made in the US. The Glock I believe is made in Austria. I haven't looked at the Springfield, but will.
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Just out of curiosity, why the ammo shortage over there?
Mexico problems, liberals blame us for our guns and ammo going to Mexico, with a "liberal" president and many anti-gun Senators= Unbridled fear of gun control and tight ammo controls and disbursement rumors.
A few talk about it then the NRA starts a panic and the manufacturers start a little glut to make big money on the demand. Has been happening for the last 40 years every time someone who does not love guns takes office.
Then everybody runs out and buys up the ammo making an unreasonable and unnecessary shortage.
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G19 is a great pistol you can also buy the 33 round mag to fit it as well,I have owned one for 3 years now.
Another one you might look at is a Steyr M9 its one of the best deals out there right now and a very high quality firearm.
There are too many choices out there just find one that fits you best.
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Yup. Price has doubled on most stuff if you can even find it. Shotgun shells and .22s remain relatively affordable so I grab a box of one or the other just about every time I see one.
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i am a big fan of the S&W M&P's. check them out and i am sure you will like them
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Sorry... I just deleted my post. Didn't want to get into a debate. I've shot a lot, sigs, glocks, taurus, springfields, berettas, and rugers. They're all good guns. They do what they're intended to do, but some just do it better and more comfortably. You should check with some friends and shoot some of their's before you make your final decision. I'll tell you what. My brother has a sig 40 cal, and I absolutly hate it. I'm a big fan of the beretta, or the springfield.
All in all its about what fits you.
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Just out of curiosity, why the ammo shortage over there?
Mexico problems, liberals blame us for our guns and ammo going to Mexico, with a "liberal" president and many anti-gun Senators= Unbridled fear of gun control and tight ammo controls and disbursement rumors.
A few talk about it then the NRA starts a panic and the manufacturers start a little glut to make big money on the demand. Has been happening for the last 40 years every time someone who does not love guns takes office.
Then everybody runs out and buys up the ammo making an unreasonable and unnecessary shortage.
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I presently own 9 handguns from 380 through 45 Colt, 6 long guns from .22 to 12 gauge. I have been reloading my own ammmo for 20 years. Due to fear of Obama and the panic that has followed and the fanning of the flames by gun store owners and gun show promoters I have not been able to find primers anywhere. This necessary component make the gun go kaboom. Without it nothing. My next gun is gonna be a flintlock muzzleloader. No primer necessary, no cartridge case necessary. I can make my own powder and mold my own boolits and tell the gun stores to kiss my butt.
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I'd like a 1911, but they only hold 7 rounds.
Not a problem, I plan to hit what I'm aim at and make it go down. Now, if I get attacked by more than 8 I'll lose, but what are the odds?
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+1 on the Taurus .357... same exact gun (for the most part) as the Smith at less cost.
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Just out of curiosity, why the ammo shortage over there?
Here is another reason that will add to the shortage, and raise the cost even higher:
Georgia Arms is the 5th largest retailer of .223 Ammo in America they sell 9 mm, .45, etc ammo.
They normally buy spent brass from the US Dept of Defense - 'one time used' shell casings by our Military - from training on Military bases, etc. They buy the brass and then re-load for resale to Law Enforcement, Gun Shops, Gun Clubs, Wal-Mart, and etc.
They normally buy 30,000 lbs of spent brass at a time.
This week the DoD wrote a letter to the owner of Georgia Arms and said that from now on the DoD will be destroying the brass - shredding it. It is no longer available to the Ammo makers - unless they just buy it in a scrap shredded condition (which they have No use for). The shredded brass is NOW going to be sold by the DoD to China as scrap metal....after the DoD pays for it to be shredded. The DoD is selling the brass to China for less money than Ammo manufacturers have been paying...plus the DoD has to pay to have the brass shredded and do all the accounting paperwork.
Sell cheaper to China - and do not sell shells at all to a proven US business.
The Georgia Arms owner even related a story that one of his competitors had already purchased a load of brass last week - and the DoD contacted him this week and said they were sending someone over to make sure it was destroyed. Shell Casings he had already bought! THE BRASS HAS NO VALUE TO THE AMMO MAKER IF IT IS DESTROYED/SHREDDED/MELTED. THE AMMO MANUFACTURER ONLY USES THE EMPTY BRASS SHELLS TO RELOAD DIFFERENT CALIBERS - MAINLY .223 BULLETS.
Georgia Arms owner says that he will have to lay off at least Half of his 60 workers, within 2 - 3 months if the DoD no longer sells their spent brass to him. He has 2 - 3 months inventory of shells to use. By summer - he's out. If he has to buy new manufactured brass shells, then the cost of ammunition to the buyer will double and triple.
You can read the info and see the DoD letter to Georgia Arms here:
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Great just another screw job by the "ObamaNation".
I thought he was for helping the lower income families. Instead he's putting small companies out of business, and low income families are now no income families.
Keep a firm grasp on every penny you have. It's the only "change" you'll have left.
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Great just another screw job by the "ObamaNation".
It's left over Bush era policy changes, although bad planning by any side right or left is still bad planning.
From http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/NewsReleases.aspx?ID=12244
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Yesterday morning, the Department of Defense informed NRA-ILA that fired military small arms cartridge cases are once again eligible for sale, following a temporary suspension in such sales instituted last week. NRA-ILA began discussions with DoD shortly after the suspension took effect, and we were assured from the beginning that efforts were underway to resolve the issue favorably.
Yesterday afternoon, DoD additionally confirmed the lifting of the suspension to pro-Second Amendment United States Senators Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Jon Tester (D-Mont.), who sent the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) a joint letter vigorously opposing the suspension, on the grounds that it had "an impact on small businesses who sell reloaded ammunition utilizing these fired casings, and upon individual gun owners who purchase spent military brass at considerable cost savings for their personal use."
Everyone who would have been impacted by the suspension, had it become permanent, owes thanks to Senator Baucus for his leadership on this issue, as well as to Sen. Tester and U.S. Rep. Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.), who also weighed in strongly on behalf of gun owners and the suppliers from whom they obtain ammunition reloaded with surplus military brass.
In announcing that the suspension has been lifted, DoD also made clear that no cartridge cases that, in the absence of the suspension, would have been sold for reloading purposes were destroyed while the suspension was in effect. Such cases were instead protected by DoD during the suspension, and are again eligible for sale. With ammunition currently in short supply, that was welcome news, to be sure.
DLA also put to rest various theories and rumors that were circulated on the internet, concerning the reason for the suspension. As DLA explained to Senators Baucus and Tester, and to NRA-ILA, DoD officials responsible for the demilitarization of military property temporarily halted the release of the cartridge cases last week, pending review of a policy change issued last year by the Office of the Secretary of Defense, which, in the interest of national security, halted the sale of items within a broad category of government property including, but not limited to, surplus small arms cartridge cases.
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Now, will you PLEASE STOP tryin' to confuse folks with the friggin' FACTS, Ed!!!!  (we's all got our own opinions 'bout stuff, WHICH as good 'Mericans we's all allowed to have, ya know!!!) 
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So why was this even mentioned? It's been resolved back in March. It makes me wonder though if politicians even read some of the stuff they sign. here's a beer sign here. Quote:
To make cartridge cases eligible for sale once again, DoD demilitarization officials verified that the cases could be appropriately placed in a category of government property allowing for their release for use within the United States, and then executed the recategorization. Whereas during the brief suspension, fired cartridge cases would have been releaseable only if the purchaser crushed or smelted them, now the cases may be sold as before, intact and reloadable.
DoD also assured NRA-ILA that companies previously authorized to purchase cartridge cases under Trade Security Controls need no further vetting at this time, and are eligible to resume purchasing cases under the policy adopted yesterday.
In sum, a problem that could have had serious repercussions for the remanufactured ammunition industry and the countless gun owners who support it, appears to have been resolved quickly.
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Just out of curiosity, why the ammo shortage over there?
Mexico problems, liberals blame us for our guns and ammo going to Mexico, with a "liberal" president and many anti-gun Senators= Unbridled fear of gun control and tight ammo controls and disbursement rumors.
A few talk about it then the NRA starts a panic and the manufacturers start a little glut to make big money on the demand. Has been happening for the last 40 years every time someone who does not love guns takes office.
Then everybody runs out and buys up the ammo making an unreasonable and unnecessary shortage.
I was discussing this with the owner of a large gun store and he said this was the most aggressive run on guns and ammo of the past 35 years... with little sign of slowing down. There was a similar run that lasted about 6 weeks in 1992 when Clinton was initially elected and Democrats controlled both houses of Congress. During the Bush administration there was a short lived run on guns and ammo after news came out that the National Guard and civilian 'contractors' were disarming citizens in an around New Orleans in the wake of hurricane Katrina, as well as a swelling of gun purchases after the Patriot Act was signed into law. (The Bush administration's subsequent weakening of Posse Comitatus appears to have slipped under the gun buying radar)
With one party currently in control of both the White House and Congress, (with an almost super majority that prevents full debate, let alone effective opposition to proposed laws), that has not only shown a willingness to force through legislation but has also recently sponsored a number of gun control bills; I would guess that the gun and ammo buying will continue while gradually lessening.
Helping to keep the momentum going are government publications such as the Missouri MIAC Strategic Report of 20 Feb 09 and the Department of Homeland Security report of 7 Apr 09 that broadly classify potentially dangerous right wing 'extremists' to include those groups and individuals who support the 2nd amendment and oppose gun control. (Naturally among the government sponsored report's recommendations is stricter gun control.)
Look up the cited and other similar documents... you might be surprised at how close to being a potential extremist/terrorist YOU are.
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...Look up the cited and other similar documents... you might be surprised at how close to being a potential extremist/terrorist YOU are.
Nah, Leno. Not little ol' ME!!! 
Nope! I only "shoot from the lip"...NOT the hip!!! 
HOWEVER, I suppose one COULD possibly classify me as a "extremist BLOWHARD", anyway!!! 
Of course in THAT regard, I'm DEFINITELY NOT in the minority around here a whole lot o' the time, ya know!!!  
BUT...I DO have ONE little question here though....
WHERE DO ALL THESE FOLKS LIVE THAT THEY FEEL THE NEED TO GO PACKIN' HEAT ALL THE FRIGGIN' TIME????
('cause ya seeeeee....if'n it was me, I'D FRIGGIN' MOVE ELSEWHERE...and folks, my house in L.A. is no more than 5 friggin' miles from SOUTH CENTRAL, and I have NEVER felt the need to take my vintage little S&W .38 with me ANYWHERE 'round here, FOLKS!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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