I didn't know this thread was that old I was just reading and found it sorry.
Keith I see you baited me into the tps thread now that I have read page after page of that monster, I didn't finish the whole thing. Though I do find it interesting. I will read more of it later.

I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago. Edgar Allan Poe