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Agree with you 100% Rick. Your profession has my respect.
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(so tell me...why would you link THAT to this thread just as we seem to have returned it back to a more lighthearted nature?)
Prolly to reinforce the idea that almost any individuals can commit crimes AND that entire groups or organizations should not be judged based on the actions of those member individuals who do so. That goes for ANY organization.
Except of course the federal reserve and its advocates... they are pure evil!
I feel the same way about my union, and all in unions in general. I get tired of the people who have not been in one to fully understand the benefits that talk about how lazy and greedy we (all unions) are. I challenge anyone to come and hang with me on a job and try to keep up with me. As far as LEO's go, do what you do, it's cool with me, I know when I'm doing something wrong, it's up to you to catch me. We all have jobs to do. Personally, I could not be in law enforcement or border patrol, believe me I've thought of it, but I would be as crooked as they come. Too much temptation for me. Nor could I be in a lifesaving situation like paramedic, I just couldn't help the drunk douche who just waxed a family of 4 on the way home from the movies or whatever....
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I think most respect the law and the men and women who enforce it. I have a problem with the cops who think they can do what ever they want when ever they want with impunity. As I stated above I know quite a few and I have not always been on the right side of the law, in fact I went to a cop shop once where a cop turned around and said " Hey! I remember you! You're trouble!" At the time I had forgotten to leave my 9mm outside and it felt like a bazooka in the small of my back about that point! Anyway some know when they need to do their job and others don't and it's the others I don't like. Even when I was in trouble some cops went way too far when arresting me. Then again I wasn't always the most cooperative. As stated above speeding is a big issue I have, I regularly see cops flying but then they will bust you for going half that fast. I don't want to hear any BS about training either, the law is the law. I also understand that there does come a point when speeding is dangerous and that person should be ticketed and brought back to reality. One of the guys I used to party with when I was a kid went away to become a cop then came back and busted all the places we used to party. That is just being an A$$hole and all he accomplished was driving us into town where we bothered people. We used to party up in the slate quarries where we didn't bother anyone but when we started getting busted there we decided we might as well just party in town.
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Speakin' of, as you said here, Dave..."As far as LEO's go, do what you do, it's cool with me, I know when I'm doing something wrong, it's up to you to catch me. We all have jobs to do."...read THIS below and then tell me what's wrong with this picture. I'll give a little hint here...MAYBE some morons out there CAN'T seem to grap the CONCEPT that NOT STOPPIN' AT A RED friggin' LIGHT when you're making a RIGHT TURN, is STILL NOT STOPPIN' AT A RED friggin' LIGHT!!!! http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123811365190053401.html?mod=yhoofrontAnd soooo, BEFORE this turns into the topic of those lousy cameras out there, tell me folks....How many times have YOU out there been ridin' down the road with a GREEN LIGHT going YOUR WAY, and THEN some MORON in a CAGE decides that HE doesn't have to STOP at HIS RED LIGHT and then juuuuust CONTINUES ON making that RIGHT TURN of HIS and starts to SWING OUT right in FRONT OF YOU as you're going THROUGH that INTERSECTION? HUH???!!!! And THESE morons have the AUDACITY to be INDIGNANT about receiving a TICKET???? HUH????!!!!! (okay...NOW do see why I said what I said earlier about me "perhaps" not possessing the qualities of being a LEO...COULD it BE that I'd want to drag their sorry asses OUT of their vehicle and "maybe" show them the error of their so-called "THINKING"???....there's entire TOO MANY morons out who THINK certain LAWS don't pertain to THEM, but EVEN WORSE is the fact they FAIL to see WHY certain laws EXIST!!!
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Hey Shamus,
I hope you don't condemn this site because of posts from a couple of people.
Just as you wouldn't want to be judged by the misdeeds of others in your profession.
I've met way more good cops than bad cops. But, there's bad apples in every barrel.
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Well Dwight, I do think law makers in certain cases have gone too far. They regulate what I do in my own home or on my own property too much. There are some laws that I think are unjust. Many zoning laws in my opinion are wrong. If I want to have junk cars from one property line to the next I should be able to if I own the land. If I want to build a castle and surround it with a moat I should be able to. That is just and example and I think there are quite a few other laws that have nothing to do with that that go a little too far, The smoking law for instance. I love it but I don't think it's right to tell someone that they can't let people smoke in an establishment that they own and operate.
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Well, I agree with ya about the "going too far" part, Ian. But remember, THAT'S what THOSE morons[the legislators] get paid to do. And it's OUR responsiblity to keep an eye on those morons, and then "suggest" to them that "maybe" their working "overtime" and they're not gettin' paid for it! (okay...okay...so I forgot about all the lobbyists who are payin' that "overtime" by throwin' money into their "reelection fund"...so shoot me!!!)  Well ANYWAY...sorry, but I'm not agreein' with some of the stuff you're proposing here. I think some zoning law ARE neccesary because without them development is often "willy-nilly" out there, and whenever that happens locations can and often DO turn into a dump WHERE a dump has no rhyme or reason to exist. AND, as you may know, I AM one of those MORONS(a little self-realization there) who hasn't the stick-to-it-of-ness to QUIT this lousy habit of smoking! HOWEVER, I have NOOOOOO problem at ALL steppin' outside(and even steppin' whatever distance the local ordinances say about how far from an establishment's doorway I must stand) whenever a craving for a cancer stick comes my way, BECAUSE I feel it's WRONG to subject others, EVEN IF some of those "others" might mostly BE smokers TOO, because I know, MAYBE some of those folks who CAME to said establishment WITH those "others", may NOT particularly CARE for MY SMOKE within a CLOSED environment!!! (but I guess I'm just one of those rare individuals out there today who still think that to be CONSIDERATE of OTHERS doesn't mean that you're any less of a "Real Man" or think that it's neccesarily taking away any of my so-called "freedoms"!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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At the time I had forgotten to leave my 9mm outside and it felt like a bazooka in the small of my back about that point!
Ahaha! Back in the days before universal metal detectors I found myself squirming in my seat in the municipal courthouse one afternoon, then it dawned on me what was causing the discomfort; I was still wearing a belt holstered .45! Holy Federal Offense!
Like you said, it felt like having a 4x8 sheet of plywood under my jacket. 
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Like I said I love the law since I don't smoke but if I owned a bar I wouldn't be so happy about it. I have had many a meal ruined by someone smoking where it invaded the taste of my food since I had to breathe it. Having a smoking section in an eatery is like having a peeing section in a pool.
The zoning was an exageration and hits home for me since I tow for a living and have junk cars here. I by no means have them all over but I do have about 35 cars at any given time on my 3 acres. Zoning hassles me from time to time but I am in a commercially zoned area and was here long before the friggin city people who want me to change my ways. My property is wooded and I have a 6' tall privacy fence along the front so if anyone can see anything they are where they don't belong. As I said though that is just an example there are many many more I can think of that go too far.
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I think most respect the law and the men and women who enforce it. I have a problem with the cops who think they can do what ever they want when ever they want with impunity. As I stated above I know quite a few and I have not always been on the right side of the law, in fact I went to a cop shop once where a cop turned around and said " Hey! I remember you! You're trouble!" At the time I had forgotten to leave my 9mm outside and it felt like a bazooka in the small of my back about that point! Anyway some know when they need to do their job and others don't and it's the others I don't like. Even when I was in trouble some cops went way too far when arresting me. Then again I wasn't always the most cooperative. As stated above speeding is a big issue I have, I regularly see cops flying but then they will bust you for going half that fast. I don't want to hear any BS about training either, the law is the law. I also understand that there does come a point when speeding is dangerous and that person should be ticketed and brought back to reality. One of the guys I used to party with when I was a kid went away to become a cop then came back and busted all the places we used to party. That is just being an A$$hole and all he accomplished was driving us into town where we bothered people. We used to party up in the slate quarries where we didn't bother anyone but when we started getting busted there we decided we might as well just party in town.
And speakin' of "a little self-realization" Ian...Do ya maybe THINK that ol' "Bazooka Incident" juuuuuuust might've ALL come down to THIS ONE little "self-realization" of YOURS here???....
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Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I certainly don't think I have the aptitude to be a copper because in these politically correct days it would seem that they are the ones being targeted by the law rather than the ner do wells.
So respect where respect is due to the folks who go out there to try and make the place a bit more bearable for the rest of us.
Before the war on terror, if I saw an unattended package I used to think "I'll be having that!"
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BECAUSE I feel it's WRONG to subject others, EVEN IF some of those "others" might mostly BE smokers TOO, because I know, MAYBE some of those folks who CAME to said establishment WITH those "others", may NOT particularly CARE for MY SMOKE within a CLOSED environment!!!
Dwighty ol'boy, I am with you on the being a considerate smoker. However, these laws and ordinances are not about forcing people to be considerate smokers. These laws are about control and even though it is still legal to smoke and it is politically correct to tax your tobacco, it is not politically correct to smoke anywhere anymore and it is not politically correct for a politician to say that we don't need a smoking ban. If there needs to be a law regulating where we can and cannot smoke it should be left to the individual business owner. A small little sign at the entrance of an establishment stating that this is or is not a smoking establishment is all that is needed. I am a big boy, I can then read that sign and decide if that is a place where I do or do not want to go. I have seen that applied in Europe and I would have to say it works quite nicely. I do not need some well, meaning save the world from itself politician telling me where or where I cannot have a dang cigarette. In larger venues, yeah, a smoking ban makes sense since so many people will want to attend. Lots of issues and exceptions to the generalization I make above but I think you get my point.
Sorry, no cop jokes but did just retort to Dwight. That should count for something.
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I challenge anyone to come and hang with me on a job and try to keep up with me.
Deal! Of course I'll have to be under contract...
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I don't want anybody to get me wrong... I respect law and I respect good cops who do their job.
Both of them?
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I don't want anybody to get me wrong... I respect law and I respect good cops who do their job.
Both of them?
What is that supposed to mean? Generally speaking, I would say yes to both? BUT...I respect law and rules but that doesn't mean I believe in all of it. Just to accept something because it's a law or because someone tells you to is certainly not MY style. Sorry, I think a little more than that. Just because something is a law doesn't mean that it is right OR makes sense.
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I challenge anyone to come and hang with me on a job and try to keep up with me.
Deal! Of course I'll have to be under contract...
right on! come on up when it picks up and we'll get you in the apprentice program.
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I don't want anybody to get me wrong... I respect law and I respect good cops who do their job.
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What is that supposed to mean? Generally speaking, I would say yes to both? BUT...I respect law and rules but that doesn't mean I believe in all of it. Just to accept something because it's a law or because someone tells you to is certainly not MY style. Sorry, I think a little more than that. Just because something is a law doesn't mean that it is right OR makes sense.
You said there was one or two good cops out there. I was asking if you respected both of them.
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I don't want anybody to get me wrong... I respect law and I respect good cops who do their job.
Both of them?
What is that supposed to mean? Generally speaking, I would say yes to both? BUT...I respect law and rules but that doesn't mean I believe in all of it. Just to accept something because it's a law or because someone tells you to is certainly not MY style. Sorry, I think a little more than that. Just because something is a law doesn't mean that it is right OR makes sense.
You said there was one or two good cops out there. I was asking if you respected both of them.
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ABSOLUTELY, SIR. Actually, more than 2 Clay but I won't give any names.
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I know what you're sayin' here Keith, however SOMETIMES "the choice" simply isn't there to be made. Let's say you're going through a town and want mexican food that day. And then you find that every mexican restaurant in that town, in order to cater to the widest possible customer base, has decided to have a smoking section in their resturants. Okay, good so far, RIGHT?! Well, I think you know how cigarette smoke doesn't exactly stay where it belongs, RIGHT?! So then you maybe say, well in THAT case, I just go to Denny's(as a last resort, you understand ) and then you discover that they ALSO allow smoking in there, for that very same reason I mentioned earlier: the widest possible customer base. So THEN you spot an Italian restuarant, and...well, maybe you see my point about so-called "choice" and allowing "The Marketplace" to dictate the allowing of patrons to smoke. I THINK, and maybe I'm wrong here, BUT, I THINK(once again) that the reason AMERICANS ESPECIALLY(it seems) resent some laws that promote public health(as in this case when we're ESPECAILLY talking about a KNOWN CARCINOGEN here) is that they, like small children, don't want to be told what to do...PERIOD, even IF it's for they're own good! Once again...just like little kids!..."WAAAAAAAAA!" ******************************************************* We now take this break to advise those who may be reading this that the author FULLY understands that by saying the above he acknowledges that it will not make him a very popular person...BUT...just like MOST of what he says, he REALLY doesn't CARE!!!...and now BACK to this authors treatise. ****************************************************** Ya see Keith, a while back I went to my urgent care center because I JUST couldn't shake this cold and cough I had. I told the doctor there that, yes, I smoke and told him I fully understand that I'm a moron for doing it, and if he wanted to give me a lecture about the evil of smoking to go right ahead. And do you know what THAT moron told me??? Well, he told me that he didn't think lecturing people was right! NOT that it didn't do any good, BUT that it wasn't RIGHT for him to tell me to quit smoking!!! Can you BELIEVE THAT???   Well then I told him that that kind'a thinking was pretty darn dumb, and to go right ahead and lecture AWAY!!(he didn't though, the shmuck) And reason I didn't mind him lecturing me was....well....do you recall the somewhat heated debates he often get into around here whenever I call someone "a moron" who doesn't wear a helmet when they're ridin' around??? Well, ya see I WOULDN'T mind it so much IF those folks would just ADMIT that they WERE a moron for not wearing a helmet, just like I admit that I'M a MORON for smokin'! But THOSE morons ALWAYS seem to wanna give me a HARD TIME about that by DENYING that they are morons JUST LIKE ME!!! And BOY, does THAT ever p*ss me off to no end! Ane SOOOOO....it just proves to ME that the less someone is likely be a little "self-aware", the MORE likely they'll whine just like those the little kids I mentioned earlier WHENEVER somebody tells 'em what's GOOD FOR 'EM!!! (note: ALL the facts given in the above argument are true enough, however some of the suppositions, though meant to be taken somewhat seriously, were presented as "tongue-in-cheek" as to be a mite more "entertaining"...and how much you FIND it "entertaining" is ALL up to YOU!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Well, Dwight I have a reply but this ain't the thread to do it in and it is 2am here. Just finished my last smoke for the evenin' and all. Would be happy to carry on with the discussion in another thread. And you know, it just might get political or something too so maybe another venue altogether would be better. Godd nite bro'. Stupid smokers (that includes me so keep those panties all where they belong and stuff).
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WOW, a triple play!
Known a lot of cops in my day - some good, some bad, some on my side and some determined to bring me down. Been my experience that the ones who grew up wanting to do the right thing became the good ones. Others grew up getting their butts kicked on a regular basis and are using their newfound power to get back at the world. Cowards with badge and a gun. Been in a few situations where the good cop had to put the bad one in his place!
Unions - no problem with the concept, but as a former union member who has spent the past 13 years as a management Labor Rep. , there are some on both sides who're just determined to push the envelope. Same thing, the ones who used to get their butts kicked now use their position in management or the union to stir up trouble. Those without an axe to grind understand that National Agreements work both ways.
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I THINK, and maybe I'm wrong here, BUT, I THINK(once again) that the reason AMERICANS ESPECIALLY(it seems) resent some laws that promote public health(as in this case when we're ESPECAILLY talking about a KNOWN CARCINOGEN here) is that they, like small children, don't want to be told what to do...PERIOD, even IF it's for they're own good! Once again...just like little kids!..."WAAAAAAAAA!"
I think it often has to do with people having difficulty believing that someone who presumably goes into politics because they can't hold a real job knows what's good for anyone else.
If you look closely at most of the more recent laws, it becomes obvious that they serve little purpose that wasn't already dealt with by existing laws if they were enforced. Instead, they serve to:
1. Show that the politicians are doing something and should be re-elected.
2. Cater to some group of people in hopes of gaining their votes.
3. Increase revenues.
4. Otherwise benefit the government and/or politicians.
By enacting smoking bans and other such laws, the government does not give a hoot whether you live or die of smoke related problems or if your business goes broke because your clientel all smoke, they want the support and votes of the "clean air" people.
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