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Received this via email, thought I would share, also emailed it on.. Quote:
Message from the Ambulance Service
We all carry our mobile phones with names & numbers stored in its
memory. If we were to be involved in an accident or were taken ill, the
people attending us would have our mobile phone but wouldn't know who to
call. Yes, there are hundreds of numbers stored but which one is the
contact person in case of an emergency? Hence this 'ICE' (In Case of
Emergency) Campaign.
The concept of 'ICE' is catching on quickly. It is a method of contact
during emergency situations. As mobile phones are carried by the
majority of the population, all you need to do is store the number of a
contact person or persons who should be contacted during emergency under
the name 'ICE' ( In Case Of Emergency). The idea was thought up by a
paramedic who found that when he went to the scenes of accidents there
were always mobile phones with patients but they didn't know which number
to call.
He therefore thought that it would be a good idea if there was a
nationally recognised name for this purpose.
In an emergency situation, Emergency Service personnel and hospital Staff
would be able to quickly contact the right person by simply
dialling the number you have stored as 'ICE'.
Please forward this. It won't take too many 'forwards' before everybody
will know about this. It really could save your life, or put a loved one's
mind at rest.
For more than one contact name simply enter ICE1, ICE2 and ICE3 etc.
PLEASE PASS THIS AROUND AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE AS THIS CAN HELP IN AN
EMERGENCY
Ray(UK)
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This is a good idea. My wife works for the government aging assistance, and they have been using this for a while. IT WORKS!
Clay
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It is a very good idea.
I have had a look at a few phones but never seen this on there.
So i've had to make do with "mum" or "home".
Before the war on terror, if I saw an unattended package I used to think "I'll be having that!"
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Check Pants
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I travel a lot for work. I have ICE-Wife and ICE-Work in my phone. My boss and our HR Director were killed in a traffic accident in January (56 car/truck pile-up on I-70 in MD). The HR director had ICE in her phone and they were quickly able to contact her family with the sad news. My boss did not have this info and it took until midnight (from 2 PM accident time) to ID her and contact her family. In the meantime, the state police wouldn't tell us anything, even though we had all her family contact info and had feared the worst.
Also in January, the guy in NY who was hit and dragged 20 miles in NYC was only ID'd by his cell phone.
Get this info on those phones!
Al
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Loquacious
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Your best bet are dog tags with all pertinent info. From paramedics on another forum... Quote:
Like some have stated here, we do not contact people on a cell phone you own. I will look for your i.d if your wallet is on the ground. I will not go through your jacket or your bike luggage, I don't care whats in it, you're evidently unconscious and I need to make sure there's nothing sticking out of you and everything is where it's supposed to be.
Dog tags=yes catch my eye everytime. Info on helmet=definitely good idea, if you wear it. Medic alert tags=yes, in fact first thing I look for if you're not wakey wakey, not every trauma starts at stupidity, some do have funny causes.
I really want to know you age,meds,medical history(not list of booboo's)such as hypertension,diabetes, hepatitis a/b/c/d, etc or anything you're taking meds for and what MEDICINES you're allergic to, not" I can't eat shellfish or oranges" we're not taking you to red lobster on the way. And yes psych is a med history, especially if you're taking medicines for it, some medicines don't like other medicines in their playground, so if you take zoloft or xanax tell me!
The only time I will grab your wallet is if I have to put you on a backboard and it's thick enough that it interferes w/ me keeping your back and hips properly immobilized. Hope this helps, and I hope you never have a need for this to be handy!
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As a former EMS worker, I can say that the ICoE / pocket stuff does not help much in the field. If it is that serious, the first and really only priority is to get you stabilized on the way to definitive care (local ER or more likely the nearest trauma center) as quickly and safely as possible. If you are unconscious from the crash, all of your clothes will be cut off to look for injuries (winter clothes especially can soak up a tremendous amount of blood or hide some serious deformities). The clothes may or may not end up in the ambulance with you. Also, pants shred, jackets tear, pockets open, etc, so relying on them to hold you information is not the best course of action.
However, I still have ICoE programmed onto my phone, as well as contact info in my wallet. Eventually, someone at the hospital will try and identify you and contact the appropriate people. If probably won't be the ER staff, but if you are admitted or are stabilized in the ER, someone will go through and try to figure out who you are. At that point, all the extra pockets / cell phone info may come in handy, assuming it survived the crash and made the trip with you. I've never seen anyone insert a USB drive into a hospital computer to access it (potential viruses, all the other patient info on the network, etc. scare almost anyone off).
Dog tags or something firmly attached to your person (not string) is the best bet, even if it only has your name and BLOOD TYPE. I know that in my area, blood shortages are not at all uncommon, so make it as easy as possible to identify to avoid the very nasty transfustion reactions that can occur.
Also, as an aside, take the 30 minutes to donate on a regular basis, especially in you are a universal donor. It really can save a life, and karma being what it is, the donation may just save your life as well.
From a cop...
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I'm a cop and as a first responder, I can tell you most people don't know about ICE. Also... a lot of departments have policies that do not allow their staff to get into your cell phone unless you give them the okay. If you are unconscious, you won't be able to tell them it's okay.
Mark
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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My new phone, an LG Voyager, has built-in provisions for up to three ICE numbers and 2 personal/medical information notes. Whether anyone would think to look there is another issue.
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Should be Riding
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Should be Riding
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Always remember to be yourself. Unless you suck. Then pretend to be someone else.
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we have been doing that for quite a while now...
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Saddle Sore
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Quote:
we have been doing that for quite a while now...
Pics ? Pics ? 
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Fe Butt
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Okay, okay!  MAYBE I'm "a little" unclear on this whole concept, BUT would somebody here PLEASE explain to me here WHY if some jackhole cager makes that sudden and unexpected left turn in from of me on my bike, that the medical response team should contact EITHER ONE of these two jokers on my behalf here again????? . . . . . .   (I'm SOOOOOOOO confused!!!)  
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Should be Riding
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Should be Riding
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 you forgot this one! 
Always remember to be yourself. Unless you suck. Then pretend to be someone else.
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Fe Butt
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Well Dave, HIM I didn't include here because he's a COP in NYC now, ain't he???
(and so, I figured IF that jackhole I mentioned above turned in front of me while I was ridin' my bike in the Big Apple, OF COURSE I'd want HIM directed to my accident scene...RIGHT???!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Should be Riding
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yeah, how's that for selling out... went from "cop killer" to TV cop  not that Ice Cube is much better with all the kid movies he makes now 
Always remember to be yourself. Unless you suck. Then pretend to be someone else.
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follow the cash
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Fe Butt
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Quote:
follow the cash
Hey! Now THAT'S not a bad Hal Holbrook playin' "Deep Throat" in that ol' Watergate movie there, Angel!!!! 
(now can you do a little Dustin Hoffman in "The Graduate" for us all here???...just image a lady cougar who looks like Anne Bancroft just past her prime but still lookin' mighty tasty, and you should have noooooo problem there, dude!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Um not to bust any bubbles here. But I am a paramedic, and to be 100% honest if your hurt bad enough to where you can not speak for your self, the medics are doing a ****** poor job if they are going through your phone.
here are a few things MOST medics look for
#1 medic alert tags.
USB ones are not so good. If your that hurt, my computer does not get opened till after we get you to the ER
#2 Dog Tags.. Wear them around your neck. works just as well as a medic alert tag.
#3 if your ridding with a group share info. Everyone should know the others medical problems as well as contact numbers.
Would hate to give you some med only to see you have a reaction to it.
#4 Let people know where your going, and call when you get there. If your running late let someone know!!!
The ICE thing is a good idea yes, but in the field unless your dead, it wont be looked at untill your phone ( not you your phone) makes it to the hospital. Same thing with the USB tags, great idea, but the info will be late getting there.
Dont like what you see??? Big red X in the top right of your screen will fix it!
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Oh on the medic alert and dog tags,, have stuff like medicine your on, any medical problems, allergies, blood type, and a phone number that will be answered 24 hours a day.
We do whats called a sample survey on every patient.
S- sings and symptoms
A- Allergies
M-Med's
P-past medical history
L-last meal
E-Events preceding
Well the L and the E we cant get from you. but the S A M P we can get off a tag real fast. TAG NOT A USB!!!!!
Dont like what you see??? Big red X in the top right of your screen will fix it!
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I totally agree with you Matthew about spending time looking through phones. If it's an RTC then we let the police deal with that side of things.
Mind you we don't actually have that many instances here where we end up having time critical patients.
However we tend to look in phones so that we can get the parents of the intoxicated kids we get called to (mostly so they can pick them up and take them home to be sick rather than all over an A&E cubicle).
Before the war on terror, if I saw an unattended package I used to think "I'll be having that!"
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