Well after all this question and answers, I ended up buying a set of Epco's, go figure ask for help and I end up not listening to anyone. Whats really bad is right after I paid for them I found a set of SS long canons locally still brand new in the box, guy never installed them for $350. See never fails Murphy's law prevails again so if you know anyone looking for a set of brand new in the box SS canons complete, let me know and I will pass on the info.
