Dave, is there any way you could add a pic on here of that bracket that holds up the rear of the carbs? Thats the only thing i'm really concerned about. As far as how the pipes sound, the turnouts sound much louder and look better in my opinion than the tors. When i bought the tor's i seen that they wern't drilled out all the way. and when i put them on they wern't as loud as i had hoped. these turnouts have one baffle in them and sound great. I'll buy another pair soon because the ones i bought were off ebay and sorta scuffed up.