Bill,

I agree whole heartedly. I am not one of those guys with the marbles, ball bearings etc. Though I have wanted to be. Understand Ryan's position, as I think most of us do, having become better driver's because we are riders. Quite a conundrum, but I think it is mostly a position arising from education, nurturing and legality. As Dwight put it, only the most "enlightened" and "big brother will save you" kind of state allowing it says a lot about that to me. I think Ryan hit a point on the entitlement concept I brought up earlier in that people tend to think it is not fair. That can put us motorcyclists into a precarious situation. In my opinion we are already in a tough situation inherently being on two wheels. Why increase that? But based on my experience, others that have been filtering for decades in the golden state and European countries, and a belief in my ability to handle a motorcycle I believe it is more a political than safety or legal issue. Big brother will take care of us all, don't none of you worry about that as long as it can bring him some cash!


Ride On! Airguy -------------------- You gotta' be smart to be lazy(and get a job done)