 Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,611 Likes: 1
Loquacious
|
Loquacious
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,611 Likes: 1 |
Stewart
.......
"It's outside your field of expertise."
"Poppycock normally is."
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825
"Lighten up, Francis."
|
|
OP
"Lighten up, Francis."
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825 |
Well, that took exactly 12 minutes.
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,611 Likes: 1
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,611 Likes: 1 |
Had to beat Dwight to it! 
Stewart
.......
"It's outside your field of expertise."
"Poppycock normally is."
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Well John, IF those sketches are even CLOSE to how that puppy is gonna look, then offhand I'd say those fellas in Minnesota who make that OTHER american motorcycle, who's name is a synonym of "Triumph", best look into some kind'a copyright infringement litigation right away. Yep! If you wouldn't have told me that that was a Honda, I'd have SWORN it was a Victory motorsickle, alright! And I have to say that I've never particularly liked the look of a gastank's bottom edge being placed that high above the top of the cylinder heads either, as it leaves too much "open area" between the engine and the tank, a design mistake, I FEEL, that many custom Triumph choppers suffer way too much. (but HEY, at LEAST it has cooling fins, RIGHT???!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Yep! You beat me to it, Stew!!! (it's this lousy two-finger typing style o' mine that most likely caused that, ya know!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 395
Adjunct
|
|
Adjunct
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 395 |
A v-twin with its problems of cooling will never be on my list of wana own. 
"Big" Jack Wilson
Mishawaka,IN.
2010 Thunderbird
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,219 Likes: 61
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,219 Likes: 61 |
Some guys like the open area above the head. I have helped on a few HDs my friend was building where we lowered the engine in the frame to to make that even more pronounced.
Does put one in the mind of the Victory, never liked that gas tank sweeping down to meet the front of the seat look. But I guess quite a few do since I see it on the high end "customs" too.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains.
Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
|
|
|
 Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,626
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,626 |
The closer the frame is to the top of the head the harder the top end is to work on. 
Steelheart- '03 Speedmaster Black/Yellow
The Hayabusa Killa
16" Shorties/140 mains/Airbox drilled
Procom CDI
"There is no cure for Celibacy. But we can treat the symptoms."
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 10,728 Likes: 5
Should be Riding
|
|
Should be Riding
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 10,728 Likes: 5 |
here is a live pic... look, the test rider has loafers on! I'm not impressed by the bike, I don't think Triumph will lose any sales over this one  
Always remember to be yourself. Unless you suck. Then pretend to be someone else.
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,420
Oil Expert
|
|
Oil Expert
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,420 |
Here's a color pic of it.  Ya. That looks like a Victory 8ball
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,420
Oil Expert
|
|
Oil Expert
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,420 |
Awww....I was too slow for Dave. 
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 10,728 Likes: 5
Should be Riding
|
|
Should be Riding
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 10,728 Likes: 5 |
quickest fingers west of the Mississippi! 
Always remember to be yourself. Unless you suck. Then pretend to be someone else.
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,268 Likes: 16
Saddle Sore
|
|
Saddle Sore
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,268 Likes: 16 |
Whoopdedo, I think I'v seen that same design ten times today on the highway.
What size is this supposed to be.? If it ain't a 3000, which I doubt then I'd then say it's just another HD clone ( or Victory clone of an Hd Clone) or something like that.
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 316
Adjunct
|
|
Adjunct
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 316 |
its water cooled the cooler is hidden at the rear above the swing arm ! thats what the vents are under the seat. the fins are Fake... 
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Ah HA! So THAT'S the Honda Cruiser I've been hearin' about for a while where they talked about hiding the radiator in that under-seat location, huh?!
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,623 Likes: 2
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,623 Likes: 2 |
Quote:
Well John, IF those sketches are even CLOSE to how that puppy is gonna look, then offhand I'd say those fellas in Minnesota who make that OTHER american motorcycle, who's name is a synonym of "Triumph", best look into some kind'a copyright infringement litigation right away.
Yep! If you wouldn't have told me that that was a Honda, I'd have SWORN it was a Victory motorsickle, alright!
That was my thought before I even scrolled down to your post Dwight.
Also, THE REAL Victory will be unveiling a new concept bike next Friday at the New York MC show.
Kevin - Luceo Non Uro
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,219 Likes: 61
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 23,219 Likes: 61 |
The one thing I do like about it and would like if the new T-bird had is the fake fins and hidden rad. That's a good idea and keeps the classic air cooled look. Only time will tell how well the hidden rad cools the engine. Probably has a fan like my old Waterbuffalo had.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains.
Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,440
Learned Hand
|
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,440 |
I think this is yet another Japanese bike that's too small for a six-footer. That rider looks awfully short.
'08 America Blue/White; Custom Headlamps, Custom Lowers, Clearview 20", Bafflectomy
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 168
Adjunct
|
|
Adjunct
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 168 |
This pic is not the Honda Fury, this was a VTX prototype from about 6 years ago, this picture was taken about 5 years ago. The sketches shown first are correct. The reason it has so much space between the engine and the gas tank is they are promoting this to the Chopper crowd not the cruiser crowd. As far as factory produced Choppers go, I think they've done a very good job and it's certainly a radical design for a conservative Japanese company. Considering all the competition for this bike is priced around $25K-$35K it will certainly make an impact... Outdated VTX prototype Honda Fury  
Last edited by AussieBiker; 01/09/2009 1:35 AM.
1965 Harley rigid Chopper
Perth, Western Australia
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 533
Adjunct
|
|
Adjunct
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 533 |
The Honda Replicator eh? Dare to be like everyone else!
I would be much more interested in an aftermarket traditional air cooled barrel/head combination for the Thunderbird myself. One can always hope.
2018 FLHCS
2014 Surly Straggler - 16,000 miles and counting!
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4
Complete Newb
|
|
Complete Newb
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4 |
I've owned a bunch of Hondas...
But they seem to have lost it as a corporation since Sochiro died. Honda has a 40 year tradition in the chopper arena. They should have copied something like my old '70 rigid 750. That would have been way cool, but probably not marketable, huh!
"It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation."
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,048
Learned Hand
|
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,048 |
Quote:
Here's a color pic of it.
Ya. That looks like a Victory 8ball
Exactly what I thought when i saw it!
01010100 01110010 01101001 01110101 01101101 01110000 01101000 <3
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,623 Likes: 2
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,623 Likes: 2 |
Quote:
Quote:
Here's a color pic of it.
Ya. That looks like a Victory 8ball
Exactly what I thought when i saw it!
Actually, that photo looks more like a blacked-out Victory Hammer.
Kevin - Luceo Non Uro
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,518 Likes: 32
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,518 Likes: 32 |
Quote:
Here's a color pic of it.
Ya. That looks like a Victory 8ball
If the bike in the picture is from around '02 it would have preceded both Victory 8Ball and Hammer models by 2-3 years.
Just doing the arithmetic.
Bedouin.
Blessed are those eyes that have seen more roads than any man! (Homer).
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,518 Likes: 32
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,518 Likes: 32 |
Quote:
... then offhand I'd say those fellas in Minnesota who make that OTHER american motorcycle, who's name is a synonym of "Triumph", best look into some kind'a copyright infringement litigation right away.
Yep! If you wouldn't have told me that that was a Honda, I'd have SWORN it was a Victory motorsickle, alright!
Or maybe (just maybe) the other way round (see previous post).
Bedouin.
Blessed are those eyes that have seen more roads than any man! (Homer).
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Yeah, except that Aussiebiker says that the photoed bike and the stetched bike are two differnt machines and not to be confused with each other. And so, if he's right, then the sketched bike doesn't appear to have that underseat radiator like the photoed bike does. But what I'm now wondering is that I know Honda has been working on a V-twin cruiser with that particular radiator placement for some time now, but as far as I know, and I could be wong here, it still hasn't appeared on the market. And so, did they give up on that idea and are now going to bring out something along the lines of that sketched bike instead, or....well...now I'm REALLY confused here, folks!!! (somebody "hep" me here, will ya???!!!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,518 Likes: 32
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,518 Likes: 32 |
Quote:
Yeah, except that Aussiebiker says that the photoed bike and the stetched bike are two differnt machines and not to be confused with each other.
Correct.
I was following on from my post covering the pictured bike which (if true) apparently preceded the Victory 8Ball and Hammer models by a few years, which it seems came out in '05.
That would make them Victory clones of a Jap Harley clone. 
Bedouin.
Blessed are those eyes that have seen more roads than any man! (Homer).
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Well, once H-D became the sales phenomenon that it did after the Evos came out, almost everybody and his "brother-san" wanted to, and did, make V-Twin cruisers, ya know.
And yep, one COULD say that ALL those bikes pretty much look alike, and are just slight "variations on the same V-Twin theme", WHICH makes the Thunderbird, and in fact ANY of the present Triumph cruiser line unique in that regard, of course.
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,459 Likes: 1
Learned Hand
|
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,459 Likes: 1 |
As a mater of interest, over here in the UK Honda don't have the VTX1300 (considered one if these) or the VTX 1800 on their 09 catalogue, just two 750 V twin cruisers. I just found this.  Honda Fury Spy Shots
Last edited by NIbiker; 01/12/2009 6:13 AM.
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,623 Likes: 2
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,623 Likes: 2 |
We'll see the Fury - and ALL the new bikes - at the New York MC show in a few days.  Can't wait to sit on the T-Bird too. 
Kevin - Luceo Non Uro
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 168
Adjunct
|
|
Adjunct
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 168 |
Quote:
Yeah, except that Aussiebiker says that the photoed bike and the stetched bike are two differnt machines and not to be confused with each other. And so, if he's right, then the sketched bike doesn't appear to have that underseat radiator like the photoed bike does.
But what I'm now wondering is that I know Honda has been working on a V-twin cruiser with that particular radiator placement for some time now, but as far as I know, and I could be wong here, it still hasn't appeared on the market.
And so, did they give up on that idea and are now going to bring out something along the lines of that sketched bike instead, or....well...now I'm REALLY confused here, folks!!!
(somebody "hep" me here, will ya???!!!)
You're right. They dropped the idea of placing the radiator at the rear of the bike and funneling air through to it. And the Fury is simply a stretched out Chopper based on the current VTX water called 1300 engine. The radiator will be placed up front as per usual, although nestled inbetween the downtubes to conseal it better.
1965 Harley rigid Chopper
Perth, Western Australia
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,623 Likes: 2
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,623 Likes: 2 |
Quote:
Quote:
And so, if he's right, then the sketched bike doesn't appear to have that underseat radiator like the photoed bike does.
But what I'm now wondering is that I know Honda has been working on a V-twin cruiser with that particular radiator placement for some time now, but as far as I know, and I could be wong here, it still hasn't appeared on the market.
And so, did they give up on that idea and are now going to bring out something along the lines of that sketched bike instead, or....well...now I'm REALLY confused here, folks!!!
(somebody "hep" me here, will ya???!!!)
And The radiator will be placed up front as per usual, although nestled inbetween the downtubes to conseal it better.
That's the way to do it with the "radiator". Or is it an oil cooler like SOME V-twins use?
Kevin - Luceo Non Uro
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,518 Likes: 32
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,518 Likes: 32 |
Quote:
Nice color.
Bedouin.
Blessed are those eyes that have seen more roads than any man! (Homer).
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Quote:
Nice color.
Yeah! AND, nice FINS TOO!!!! 
(...on BOTH the AIR-cooled Victory, AND ALSO on the WATER-cooled Honda TOO, I might add!!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,623 Likes: 2
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,623 Likes: 2 |
Quote:
Yeah! AND, nice FINS TOO!!!!
Thanks, that color is called Midnight Cherry and is/was available on several models including my 08 Kingpin.
Speaking of fins, who's got a good fin cleaning technique?
Last edited by Speedmaster05; 01/12/2009 2:38 PM.
Kevin - Luceo Non Uro
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,823
Learned Hand
|
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,823 |
Quote:
Speaking of fins, who's got a good fin cleaning technique
pipe cleaner.. web page
Ed 
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 316
Adjunct
|
|
Adjunct
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 316 |
http://www.furyisunleashed.com/ it is being unleashed in new york in 3 days so I guess we will find out about it then. Cant wait
Last edited by bigdoug; 01/12/2009 11:27 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 335
Adjunct
|
|
Adjunct
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 335 |
I want fins on everything. I'm gonna buy the oil cap with fins. I want finned forks. I want a finned headlight. I want you to look at my bike and see nothing but fins! ******, I'll get a finned helmet!
-Joe Merlino
Boston, MA USA
1982 BMW R100 (decomissioned), 2003 America
Triumph: Cool enough for The Fonz, cool enough for me.
|
|
|
Re: Honda's Thunderbird Killer? THE FURY
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Quote:
I want fins on everything. I'm gonna buy the oil cap with fins. I want finned forks. I want a finned headlight. I want you to look at my bike and see nothing but fins! ******, I'll get a finned helmet!
Now now, Joe! As much as I'd like to see a little more cooling fins on the new T-Bird's cylinder barrels, one CAN go a little overboard with this whole "fin thing", ya know!
Case in point...this particular GM concept car known as the Firebird III from 1958...
(yep...even I think they went a little too far here, dude!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
|
|
