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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28055102/Never trust 'em to do the right thing. Never. 
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What ever happened to the days when they would escort you to the hospital??? This world is taking themselves way too seriously!!! Man, that burns me up!!!
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About a year ago, police in my area were called to a disturbance one evening after dark. When the two officers arrived, there was a guy outside on the street, ranting and raving. Given the situation, they couldn't help but know two things: 1. He was gonna resist, cuz he was really acting nuts, and 2. He was completely unarmed. They knew he was unarmed cuz he was stark nekked, not a stitch of anything. Neverthless, they walked over and attempted to subdue him by means of hand-to-hand combat. That of course created a scuffle, which they then resolved by shooting him dead. The officers involved have since been exonerated by a board of law abiding citizens. Behaviour like this and lack of justice for the victims is not atypical.
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If the guy was naked and unarmed the police in question should have gone to jail on murder charges. 2 cops should have been able to subdue a naked guy, clubs or tazer at worst.
I would appeal that ticket, it was an emergency. I would also ask that the cop in question be reprimanded and have to apologize to you in person. Maybe even be made to get a gift for your child out of his own pocket. Too bad that the days of the escort are gone along with checking the oil and washing the windows and such at the gas station all as part of the normal full service. What makes it worse is the cops around here would do something stupid like that but not enforce the law when it counts.
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Guys we all know a lot of police do good jobs in very trying circumstances. Many put their lives on the line for the betterment of the community. Like almost every public office it only takes one ****** to ruin it for all the good guys. The question that should be asked is why this guys superiors are actively supporting him.
This protection of incompetants stretches across the atlantic. We have a situation where children at risk have been let down by a system supposed to protect them. The outcome is that a director is sacked losing pension and other benefits....across the board those who lack the common sense or instinct to know the difference between right or wrong should be removed from office.
To the good guys we salute you to the idiots well I let you make your own gestures.
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I certainly didn't mean all law enforcement officers , my uncle was a federal marshal and a good man. I also know a couple good cops here but their hands are tied by the higher ups. The system here is broken to be sure. Petty things get pressed when they should be let go and serious things get a blind eye. When asked they just give lame excuses. Like when Wendy and Amanda were assaulted here in our front yard. All we got was "It isn't worth our time" They are under 18 and nothing would come of it" They were 16 and 17. They let that go so what lesson does that teach? It teaches that they can get away with it and go do it to someone else. They should have been arrested and tried and even if nothing came of it they know that an attempt will at least be made to stop things like that. That is only an example I have first hand experience with and more recent was murder and rape threats some directed at a minor over a cell phone among other things that were said and texted and all they can do is charge the guy with stalking? Drop all the other offences?
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About a year ago, police in my area were called to a disturbance one evening after dark. When the two officers arrived, there was a guy outside on the street, ranting and raving. Given the situation, they couldn't help but know two things: 1. He was gonna resist, cuz he was really acting nuts, and 2. He was completely unarmed. They knew he was unarmed cuz he was stark nekked, not a stitch of anything. Neverthless, they walked over and attempted to subdue him by means of hand-to-hand combat. That of course created a scuffle, which they then resolved by shooting him dead. The officers involved have since been exonerated by a board of law abiding citizens. Behaviour like this and lack of justice for the victims is not atypical.
Speaking as an Aggie,, since that was in Austin..it could be viewed as sexual harrassment 
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Common Sense,seems to be as rare as rocking horse sh1te these days.
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Not all of us are bad. I overlook lots of things that my bosses would press me on. Sometimes you are left with no choice due to bystanders. That seemed to be the situation in the officers position. we are being told (Rumor) that he was written up several years ago for a similiar situation where he did not ticket the lady who was pregnant, and on her way to the hospital when she crashed due to speeding. It bit him once now haunted him again. My personal point of view would be getting her to the hospital first then ticketing the husband or driver next in that situation, if you feel thats necessary. Allot of different circumstances and variations would play a role. I am not defending him or making excuses just understand cause I have been there before. 
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but their hands are tied by the higher ups.
This seems to be the crux of the matter, good guys want to do good jobs, but as with rocking horse and unicorn ****** common sense for those higher up is very rare. They do not wish to be seen to adopt an offensive stance. The stance may be politically incorrect or may offend a few of the bleeding heart liberals that redolantly infest our political stage in the UK. So who suffers the ordinary person.
If you are a lazy work shy dole scrounging jail inhabiting waster. The system works to help rehome you get a job for you under the rehabilitation of offenders act. But if you are a Victim of these scum then it is left to Charities to try and support you.
Sorry Ian I was in way trying to make light of your uncle or his work. I am just reaching the end of my tether watching good people get screwed over time and time again by people in authority and as our new friend "bikeryder" points out he has to do things he would rather not do as it goes against common sense.
Rant over....for now till the next escapade of lunacy from the politicos.....
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Not all of us are bad. I overlook lots of things that my bosses would press me on. Sometimes you are left with no choice due to bystanders. That seemed to be the situation in the officers position. we are being told (Rumor) that he was written up several years ago for a similiar situation where he did not ticket the lady who was pregnant, and on her way to the hospital when she crashed due to speeding. It bit him once now haunted him again. My personal point of view would be getting her to the hospital first then ticketing the husband or driver next in that situation, if you feel thats necessary. Allot of different circumstances and variations would play a role. I am not defending him or making excuses just understand cause I have been there before.
I have lived all over the country and one thing I have noticed is young or new cops are the ones that seem to be the ones that give this type of ticket. I have also seen stuff like this from small town cops. It always seems to be the ones that feel the power of the badge. I have not seen it much in Aiken, Lexington, or Columbia and I doubt you have it much up around Greenville/Spartanburg. But you do see stuff like this all the time in towns like North Augusta and Batesburg. I have see North Augusta cops set 50 yards past a speed limit change sing and give tickets for 3 miles over, a Batesburg cop gave my brother a ticket for a missing turn signal lens that I know was on the truck when he left the house. It got so bad with this one cop in Batesburg that when he was seen at a street festival out of uniform about 30 people cornered him in a ally and threaten to kick his a$$ if he did not start treating people right. About 3 weeks later he stopped a guy and wanted to search his car when the guy opened the trunk for him the cop grabbed the guy and shoved him to the ground. The guy jumped up and beat the cop to the point he was in the hospital for 2 days. After the fight the guy got on the radio in the car and called for help. The guy was let off because the judge said the searching someone car and shoving them to the ground for a blown headlight was excessive. Several people had complained about the guy but the chief did not do anything about it before it got to this point. I don’t think in a bigger town or city this cop would have gotten away with the things he did for as long.
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The first two should never have let them go on. They should have escorted or called an ambulance.
The family car is not an emergency vehicle. If he had hit and killed somebody on the way, what would we all have to say then? She has a baby in a wrecked car looking at the dead body in the other car.
Maybe something like " Too bad that little kid on the street was run over and killed but after all his wife was having a baby."
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The first two should never have let them go on. They should have escorted or called an ambulance.
The family car is not an emergency vehicle. If he had hit and killed somebody on the way, what would we all have to say then? She has a baby in a wrecked car looking at the dead body in the other car.
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The first two should never have let them go on. They should have escorted or called an ambulance.
The family car is not an emergency vehicle. If he had hit and killed somebody on the way, what would we all have to say then? She has a baby in a wrecked car looking at the dead body in the other car.
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