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I want to buy a set of long TOR's for my America. Can anyone verify which part number is the quieter version of these? The Triumph website has the A9608020's as the ones they are selling now. Are these the louder ones and the earlier version the quieter? Or wha....?

I have the 026 version.
They are the loud version.
I replaced them with the TB pipes.
The 020`s are the mild pipes.

Thanks Dowop. That's what I thought but I wanted to be sure before buying.

Nologic....i thought you already bought TORs just till you could afford TB's !

dowop.....where you been? Haven't seen you post at RAT at all, and in fact this is the first i've seen of you here in a good while too. Did you see my thrux needles post?

I changed my mind on the TB pipes. I just can't seem to justify $700 for 2 mufflers when I have heard stories of them starting to rust within months of installing them. I like the shorties that I have as far as sound goes but would rather have the long pipes. I like the look of them better. And the TOR's I can either find used or get them for $346.50 from my dealer. Half the cost.

I kinda look at it like this...TORs:sound, Tpipes:sound and performance. You're paying for the bit more power they add right off the bat plus the ability to do more airbox and jetting changes for even more power, all allowed due to the free flowing pipes. From all i've read TORs almost always are said to yield little to n performance results while Tpipes are almost always said to add a lot. So yea, they're expensive. But on the other hand the difference in cost is far less than the cost of a new hotter cam or BB and install or most anything that allows the kind of boost the pipes will with accompanying mods. My speedy is so much quicker than stock at this point that it really is amazing considering no major engine mods have been done. So i'd have easily paid the amount i did for the performance alone even if the sound was the same. So in essence you may be saving 3 bills, but those 3 bills are the cheapest route to a big performance gain you'll find. (ok, well add a few bucks for some jets and a filter......still cheap for what u get)

It seems like we go through phases around here. Today it is the Thunderbird pipes. Tomorrow... Who knows?

There are several pipes being manufactured for the BAs/SMs. Check out past threads concerning them.

I would suggest that you can get just as much oomph out of these others as you can with the Tpipes.

I have little to no interest in making my bike go faster. I am 53 and have left all of that speed stuff well behind. I just want a good sounding set of pipes. I will rejet because I have had a lag in accelleration since new. I probably would have rejetted with different pipes or not. So if I can put on a set of long TOR's for $350 instead of $700 for the TB's I will have more coin to spend on improving the ride and the looks.

Dazco,
I read your post on the Thruxton needles.
It was informative.
I really noticed a improvement when I installed them.
The weather is terrible here,have not been riding.
I have been fooling around setting up a wireless network.
I also built a new computer.



As far as the Tor`s the ones I have are way to loud.
The Tpipes are a big improvement all the way around.
I did not notice any performance increase at all with the Tor`s.
In all fairness though I did not have the bike dynoed untill I installed the Tpipes.
Ride safe Amigo.
Sure wish I lived in So Cal.

Yea, the needles worked out well after having even more time on them. the bike runs so nice with them as far as sound and smoothness. And the low end power is better. But i know for a fact they are on the edge of being over-rich which means if i can get more intake i should feel some more power gains. At this point with the airbox drilled snorkel gone and UNI filter my only option to further the airflow into the carbs is restrictor plate removal. And after hearing a couple guys here insist the box will slide right out if you remove the shocks and drop the swingarm i believe i'm gonna try it.

California ain't bad compared to where you are, but my wussy a$$ still can't handle the weather lately. 40-45 in the morning is arctic weather to me. for one thing i don't have or like wearing real heavy layers and other obtrusive gear. It's just not fun and i'd rather cage it and save the bike for warmer days. Besides, i don't mind the wait because it just makes it that much sweeter when i DO get to ride.

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I bought the TOR Longs (A9608020) installed with the bike new. I put about 4K miles on the bike on a relatively short riding season (home every other week). They sound great "right out of the box" and sound "better" over time. Not too loud, not too quiet. I've never experienced the "raspy" sound, but have no basis for comparison. I also like the stock "look" of the pipes and they're considerably cheaper than most after-market alternatives. Go the Ebay route for even more savings.

Advertised as "no jetting required", together with AI removal, popping and backfire did increase. 3.5 turns out on the pilot screws was not enough to dampen decel noise with the stock jets. I recommend rejetting to 125's with these two simple modifications.

Just my 2 zloty.

Regards,

Tom

Sounds like you are trying to get every ounze of HP out of that Speedy that you can. That's cool. And you probably have the right pipes for that. I'm not real thrilled with the power my BA has. Infact my '88 650 Guzzi would have smoked this thing. But it gets me around in style. And that makes me happy. That's is all I need.

That's a tolerable price for me. But how loud are the Epco's? I don't want something real loud.

I don't think Epcos are all that loud. Nowhere near Scepters.

But loudness is relative. Do you have anyone near you with them?

I'm not sure. Is there a sound clip out there somewhere?